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Seems like the sort of thing that, in addition to being morally abhorrent, would drive more Palestinians to become terrorists.
It truly is the worst long term "solution". You're not gonna make friends by bombing them, I thought that much would have been obvious.
I don't think they want friends.
The military industrial complex doesn't discriminate
It’s a perfect solution when all you need is a boogieman to “protect the nation” against. You get to show that you hurt the boogieman, and the wounds you inflict ensure the boogieman’s continuous survival.
It gave the Israelis the excuse to completely exterminate all the Palestinians in Gaza they've been waiting for.
Gaza openly calls for the extermination of Jews.
It is wrong to kill people but we have the death penalty for killers.
It is wrong to imprison people but we have prisons for criminals
Any thinking person can see from the start that Muslims are not willing to live on peace with Jews or anywhere whereas Israel has always been willing to live in peace
Israel's "peace" is built upon land they violently seized from the Palestinians, from 1948 until today.
You should learn history .
You can look up the 1948 partition plan for starters, which Israel accepted and arabs went to war over. Israel 'violently seized' the land by defending themselves.
Under the British mandate, the Ottoman empire there were caps and restrictions on how many Jews could live in Palestine while there were none on Muslims. In every Muslim country there were discriminatory laws against Jews.
The Jewish was position was that there is some state to which Jews are free to immigrate, ie the Jews fleeing Europe. There have always been Jews in Palestine, Jews are the natives, but not a state for 2000 years.
In the Jewish state arabs live freely and it was always the position of Jews that arabs can live freely in Israel and that there can be a Palestinian state (in addition to Jordan which was a part of Palestine)
The Arab position- based on islam- is there can be no Jewish state at all. They are fascist, they think the whole world should be Islamic. They launch terror attacks all over the world against non muslims- in India, armenia, Europe, the USA, Africa....
You are just repeating slogans.
The Partition Plan, first, was in 1947, not 1948. Bad start. Here's a Dec 1944 map of Jewish-owned land in Palestine:
Notice the extreme difference between this and the proposed partition:
The entire difference is land that was forcibly dispossessed from the Arab population that lived there:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
The British immediately declined to implement the plan, and then withdrew from the region as civil war erupted.
And here are the modern lines - notice how Israel has dramatically expanded even since then, especially in the West Bank and Golan Heights:
https://me-confidential.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/palestine-e1453479943364-1024x701.jpg
https://www.npr.org/assets/graphics/2019/03/map-israel-golan-300.png
As of 1890, Jews represented 8.1% of the Palestinian population, and 1% as of 1690:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)
Inside the inner state. Outside, in the occupied/blockaded territories, they do not.
"The Arab position"? Extremely racist generalization. This is absolutely no different than saying "the black position" or "the Asian position".
You are just repeating slogans. Ones I've heard over and over before. Get a better grip of the facts.
The partition was voted on in 1948.
No pals were displaced before the war. The area in the south of israel- the negev- is a desert where very few people lived and no one lived at the time.
There have always been Jews in Palestine, your assumption is that vacant, uninhabited, never developed land is somehow reserved for arabs when Jews are the native people of the land.
The Jewish position is that there be some land for Jews in israel- the land to which they are native- and the Muslim position is that there be none, not 1 inch, that it is all a Muslim state like all the other Muslim states which have had discriminatory laws against Jews for centuries.
All the further partitions are in the context of Arab wars against Israel, until 1967 Jordan controlled the west bank, Egypt Gaza, yet they did not make a Palestinian state... They launched wars against Israel in 1956, 67, 73...
Yes inside israel arabs live freely and don't want to leave are be a part of Palestine, pals have been offered states on the WB etc... Numerous times and have always rejected.
Just a fresh new load of bullshit claims. I'm not doing this all night. Partition plan vote was November 29, 1947.
Israel has been doing this since 1949 - I think the Palestinians by now know the Israelis didn't do white supremacist settler-colonialism in order to be their friends.