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CNN Host Left Stunned As IDF Confirms Israel Hit Refugee Camp With Airstrike (newrepublic.com)

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CNN’s Wolf Blitzer seemed at a lost of words at the justification being used to bomb a refugee camp in Gaza.

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[-] HowMany@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Define "liberal". Then maybe the rest of what you said can fall in place.

[-] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago

Not OP but I think they meant supporters of neoliberal economic policy and somewhat progressive social policies. "Liberal" like American liberal politics. The point being that they think they have good politics because they think trans people are people and aren't the kind of right wing fanatic we get a lot of. They're "left" to the extent that the American political spectrum allows for without understanding what "left" actually means, without being conscious of the overarching machinations that make then think their politics are good even as they continue to feed a system that intentionally blinds them to any honest criticism.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

supporters of neoliberal economic policy and somewhat progressive social policies. "

There's nothing progressive about airstrikes on civilians. Never has been.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago

The somewhat progressive social policies are reserved for the domestic market. Statistically, US democrats are the party who starts wars and UK liberals always support these wars as we saw with Iraq and Afghanistan.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Liberal: White, far-right, genocidal, usually rich and supports literal nazis because their opponents are communists.

In a modern day context: Supports Ukraine because they're white and full of nazis, supports Israel because they're white and full of nazis.

[-] cobra89@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

A Russia apologist, Surprise Surprise. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you...

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I fucking hate this so much. Anyone whose against nazis in Ukraine must automatically be a russia apologist. There is zero other explanation. Flat out the one case where they can flat out support nazism and then spin it like you're the one whose problematic for calling it out.

You do realize how dangerous that is, right? Remember how Prager U called everyone they didn't like communists and they were so universally disliked that it resulted in a huge surge in people identifying as communist? What makes you think this won't happen here?

And that's why they do it. It's two fascist nations are fighting, they want you to pick a side because regardless of which one you do, they win.

[-] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

These Russian sock puppets try really hard.

[-] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure they ment left wing liberal, you're thinking more of libertarian I think? Or are you just really deep in the chamber?

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Everything he said applies more to Democrats than libertarians.

[-] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

The democrats are far right?

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

By the standards of the rest of the world, absolutely.

[-] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

Only if the rest of the world is China and Cuba. Sure they're not very left wing but slightly right of centre is far more accurate than 'far right'

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

In theory maybe. In practice china is to the right of the US. They're a hypercapitalist oligarchy wearing an "I'm totes a communist" hat.

[-] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ok so the democrats are far right, China is further right and I guess South Korea or somewhere is off the map and out the building.

I really don't think just calling everyone we have a disagreement with right wing as if it's a synonym for evil is an especially useful strategy.

Because like I know it's hard to hear but the Scandinavian countries are pretty shitty too in a lot of ways. UK and most the EU is right of the democrats, even Kier (labour leader) is to the right of Biden.

We're going to have to say Christiania is centrist at this rate.

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Right wing doesn't mean "bad". It means "view certain social orders and hierarchies as inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable, typically supporting this position based on natural law, economics, authority, property or tradition. Hierarchy and inequality may be seen as natural results of traditional social differences or competition in market economies."

All of those things apply to both China and the Democrats. I don't care if they call themselves the left, or progressives, or socialists, or communists. They are very far to the right.