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Gaza says Israel's strikes on refugee camp kill more than 195 people
(www.reuters.com)
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Like the 500 dead in the self inflicted hospital parking lot? Come on.
Hamas is a motivated and non-credible source for details.
Hamas has launched over 35 THOUSAND rockets over the years, which has barely killed 69 people, yet somehow now all of the sudden such a rocket fails and lands on a hospital and HUNDREDS die? Sure, so be it, but why would I even believe the IDF on this one? They haven't even provided any kind of proof. They provided a video which many organizations have debunked as being completely unrelated to the hospital rocket. Hell, even the New York Times debunked that video, and they're definitely west aligned.
That’s the point- 500 people didn’t die, it’s a made up number to grab headlines.
How many innocent Palestinians do you think have died since the 7th of October in general?
Who knows? I sure don’t. But I don’t believe 500 people died in a parking lot and I don’t take numbers from a motivated party at face value.
I sure hope the Hamas, IDF and the US fall under your "motivated party" definition too.
Y’all are bonkers if you equivocate the US and hamas. Legit they kidnapped, raped, murdered, than paraded the dead body of a young woman through the streets. This is the same group y’all go to for info?? Nuts man….
Do you have any idea about the US's history? Did you forget their lie about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to invade them, and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians? This is just one lie we're talking about.
The US has committed several war crimes, and killed millions of innocent civilians, they have killed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than Hamas killed and will ever kill.
A nice quote from the FUCKING CHARTER of Hamas “ The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: 0 Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! “
The organization is designed around genocide. You play with the idea that everyone is equally bad- that because the U.S. has done terrible things then all terrible things are equal. But Hamas was founded with the goal of eliminating a population. It’s not a fucking resistance movement fighting for survival- it’s a terrorist organization intended to wipe out another population.
How you equivocate the two is beyond me. If the Declaration of Independence had a line describing the death of Mexico or Canada then sure. But only one group has specifically called for the elimination of the a population- and that’s Hamas of the Jews.
1- Israel has been killing Palestinians and stealing their lands decades before Hamas was even a thing.
2- Yes, the US is much much much worse than Hamas since they invaded several countries and killed millions of innocent civilians, they're even the only country to ever nuke another country, so yeah, the US is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than any other entity on Earth, it's probably a tie with Israel too.
Your response is nothing but theatrics and exaggeration. The US worse than North Korea, where no free will or choice exists? Or how about china, with ongoing Uyghur concentration camps? Or nazi Germany and the holocaust?
This is not to say the US is blameless- it’s to say that there are degrees of evil- and founding your organization on the death of someone else puts you at bottom of the barrel, by default.
How many innocent civilians has North Korea killed compared to the US? How many countries have they invaded?
I agree, and since the US was built on annihilating native Americans and stealing their lands, they are at the bottom of the barrel. Glad we finally agreed on that.
And the IDF and the US have lied countless times before. I'm not american, nor israeli, nor an arab. I don't need to pick a side for info here. All three (US, IDF, Hamas) have lied countless times before. Anyway, last time I checked the US has caused hundreds of thousands of innocent deaths by using bullshit reasons such as "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION", yet you tell me I should trust them more than some terrorists that killed 1000 times less people. I don't trust any of y'all.
If you're american, I want you to know that your country shouldn't be trusted at all with any kind of information. Your regime has caused countless deaths around the world. It has helped fascist dictators rise to power. Dictators that ended up killing hundreds of thousands of innocents. You don't have to take this from me. Take it from your very own government. All of this is declassified information. https://web.archive.org/web/20090911173014/http://foia.state.gov/Reports/ChurchReport.asp
So again, get off your high horse here. Hamas is a shit terrorist organization, I won't deny that. But I sure as hell am not dumb enough to believe your government on absolutely anything. Nor the IDF which has killed countless innocents before October 7th alone.
Do you think it's thousands of innocent women and children, or less?