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Matrix vs. XMPP, Security, Privacy, Apps, Efficiency ?
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no? anyone can send a spec proposal here. After discussion and implementation, it may well be accepted.
Sure, you can beg them to consider your proposal, but I hope you do realize that this isn't the same as an open standardization process, right?
sorry, goalpost moving isn't my favorite sport
The original objection was about it not being and "open protocol", which is not the same as having the source code of an implementation under an open source license.
That Matrix isn't an open protocol has always been one of the core objections against it. This isn't moving goal-posts, and if you fail to understand the original objection then why are you even commenting on it?
What is an open standardization process?
https://xmpp.org/about/standards-process/
This is xmpps open standardization process. Its good. Its also similar to matrix in that you propose and people comment on it. They both have the core elements needed to be an open standardization process. So stop gatekeeping.
No you fail to see the vital difference that the Matrix Foundation process is only open to paying members and that a single for-profit company is currently absolutly dominating the Foundation board that has the final say.
On the XSF anyone can easily become a member and get voted in a fair democratic election into the council. I know that several members are just community members with no corporate backing and they have the same if not more weight in the decision making as everyone else.
Then outline the ways they are different and source it.
I just did, and you can look up the how little oversight and accountability there really here: https://matrix.org/membership/
To look up who the guardians and core spec team is you can scroll to the bottom here: https://matrix.org/about/ (Note that basically all of them are very closely affiliated the Element the for-profit company).
Tl;dr the Matrix Foundation is a sham to hide that Element the company calls all the shots and has no interested at all in an truly open standards process.