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[-] rubythulhu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 10 months ago

SoM was indeed anti-nazi, yes. But this meme is about subverting an anti-nazi political body with a loophole, which shocks (and assumedly, from the comic panels, defeats) said political body. this part, which is not included in the original work, is what makes me uncomfortable.

[-] ___@lemm.ee 37 points 10 months ago

I can see it a little, but you’re overthinking it.

The director wanted his movie to be authentic, the city didn’t want to stir up the past. Director rightfully says ok, I have an alternative. City horrified of how it’s portrayed and folds.

The negative is that the swastika will fly for filming, obviously, promoting (very) indirectly.

That aspect doesn’t make this meme pro-nazi as I see it. The whole point is that a creative wanted something that the decision makers tried to block. The creative does what their name implies and finds a hack to get their vision closer to what ends up on film.

[-] rubythulhu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 10 months ago

Yeah, it's a lot the meme format and the underlying implication of defeat that makes it feel weird to me. I actually think that they shouldn't have needed the loophole, and on its whole, portraying a negative thing in a negative light is valid. but the meme format puts this in a weird place for me b/c of the implication of defeat

[-] polysexualstick@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

You're misinterpreting this imo, I would assume because of a distance to Austrian politics. Austrian governing bodies are very seldomly actually anti-nazi. Instead, they are bringing forth right-wing policies while virtue signalling that "nazism bad".

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 7 points 10 months ago

Fair enough, i can see how you got there. Subverting an anti-nazi body in order to authentically trash nazis in a film seems like a net-positive to me. Thanks for elaborating though, I appreciate the different perspective.

[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 5 points 10 months ago

...but thats what happened

[-] MuThyme@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I get a similar feeling, but to me I think it's because this is very similar to a right wing debate strategy, which is making the audience think you're cooler than your opponent and not worrying about being right.

It's a very similar vibe

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