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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

You should check before you copy paste, so lemme just:

Everything before 1949: The idea that Israel had a right to Palestinian land is itself wrong. A two-state solution is the most realistic solution now, but before the war it should've been one state encompassing all of Palestine. A two-state solution necessarily meant that a number of Palestinians would be condemned to expulsion or a life of apartheid (which both happened and are happening in post-war Israel). And anyway this was more than 70 years ago; almost nobody who remembers that is alive today.

The UN resolutions are things Israel objects to. How do these even belong on a list of peace offers from Israel when Israel actively rejects them (particularly the 1949, since it calls for the right of return of Palestinian refugees).

The 1978 offer from Sadat was Yasser Arafat's greatest mistake and part of what led Palestine to the current situation, no argument there, but calling it an Israeli offer is disingenuous at best and misinformation at worst.

1994: Bruh negotiations were progressing until Rabin got fucking assassinated by a Zionist terrorist, at a time where the Israeli right was actively calling for his assassination. How you (or well, the guy who wrote this) managed to blame this on Palestine is beyond me.

2000 and 2001 (they're the same thing): The then-Israeli foreign affairs minister stated he wouldn't have accepted the offer if he were in Arafat's place. It was that bad.

The Olmert offer was mostly behind closed doors so nobody actually knows what was going on (both sides blame each others for not following up on negotiations), but from what we do know the offer included keeping an unacceptably large part of the West Bank (about 10% by the Palestinian calculation).

Are you seriously buying Netenyahu wanting peace? The guy who supports settlements and goes on and on about how a Palestinian state must not be allowed to exist? LMFAO. Give me an example of one of those offers, if you will.

2014: The American envoy stated that the blame for the failure of the negotiations (not an offer, since Israel didn't actually offer anything) lied squarely on Israel, and specifically Netenyahu. That's how uncooperative Israel was.

And about Palestinian offers: How do you expect Palestinians to offer peace? "We want peace with these terms" "No". It's Israel who holds all the power; they're the only ones who can offer peace.

So with that, if anyone was actually buying this shit, this is why this is complete and utter nonsense.

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Did you just try to disprove everything shirtly after and before ww2 as "well uhm the land isnt theirs tho"?
Did you fail highschool?

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