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Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders said Sunday he doesn’t know that a ceasefire is possible in the Israel-Hamas war with “an organization like Hamas” involved.

“I don’t know how you can have a ceasefire, (a) permanent ceasefire, with an organization like Hamas, which is dedicated to turmoil and chaos and destroying the state of Israel,” Sanders told CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union” Sunday.

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[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

That doesn't sound right. One of those was stopped by an assassination. One was stopped by conservatives gaining power in Israel. One was stopped by a war between Fatah and Hamas.

The PLO offered peace in 2010, 2012, 2013, and 2014 and were stopped by Israel.

Many were stopped because of a Hamas attack or Israel refusing to stop taking West Bank territory.

It seems like you were saying that because Palestine didn't give in to Israel's demands every time that it's always their fault.

This is from some quick research, though. Someone feel free to correct me.

[-] Nobsi@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

The PLO offered peace in 2010, 2012, 2013, and 2014

Yes, and it was all for shit because hamas threatened violence if any party thought about compromise. Aka. Exactly what i wrote.

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kind of, but not really. You were equating Hamas and all Palestinians together. They're not all the same. Lots of Palestinians want peace, including ones that have been in governing positions. I'm glad you crossed out the one sentence that did that but you've still got this one:

Here is a list of peace offers which would grant the Palestinians a country of their own, they refused all of them

That's a very ambiguous "they" up there and seems to refer to all Palestinians and not just Hamas.

Hamas has been a great excuse to break off peace negotiations, though. I can see why Bibi propped them up to prevent a two state solution. It's worked wonders, although hopefully the blowback of this past event takes him out of political life forever now.

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