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The long fight to make Apple's iMessage compatible with all devices has raged with little to show for it. But Google (de facto leader of the charge) and other mobile operators are now leveraging the European Union's Digital Market Act (DMA), according to the Financial Times. The law, which goes into effect in 2024, requires that "gatekeepers" not favor their own systems or limit third parties from interoperating within them. Gatekeepers are any company that meets specific financial and usage qualifications, including Google's parent company Alphabet, Apple, Samsung and others.

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[-] kirklennon@kbin.social 101 points 1 year ago

On the tech side, Android users also get lower-quality photos and videos when they're sent through iMessage.

Android users don’t receive anything at all through iMessage; the whole conversation becomes SMS/MMS. I suppose getting major, relevant tech details is hard for an outlet like Engadget.

[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 36 points 1 year ago

I think you're just being pedantic here.

I'm pretty sure they meant when messages are sent using the iMessage app - from the point of view of iPhone user distinction between iMessage protocol and SMS/MMS doesn't matter.

[-] kirklennon@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The app is called Messages. The entire point of the article is to discuss iMessages versus SMS so I absolutely do think it’s important to get the distinction right in this case.

[-] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But the statement made is not incorrect. I agree that a note that it's because the conversation switches to S/MMS would be handy, but they're not incorrect.

(When photos and videos are sent to an Android user through iMessage), (Android users receive lower-quality photos and videos [via being downgraded to SMS/MMS).

[-] kirklennon@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The statement in the article is literally incorrect. You cannot send a message to an Android user through iMessage. That fact is at the core of the discussion and they got it wrong. It’s not degraded from an iMessage. The conversation is just happening over SMS/MMS, as the Messages app has supported since launch in 2007.

[-] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The surrounding context of that statement is talking about the app, not the protocol. From the Apple user's perspective, they see no difference except for the bubble color.

[-] zeps@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

They do actually, the bubbles are a different color!

[-] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[-] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Isn’t the app on Apple devices called Messages? I thought iMessage was the name of their e2ee internet messaging protocol.

[-] kirklennon@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago

Again, protocols are core to the discussion, and from the user's perspective which protocol they are using is very obvious (which, again, is core to the discussion). This isn't some trivial detail to get wrong. If they author can't carefully distinguish themselves and educate their audience, why are they even writing about it in the first place?

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