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[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago

I think the sad fact is many people in the US are okay with financing genocide as long as they don't have to hear Trump's name or suffer any consequences personally. As long as some kind of right wing boogeymany exists, you can convince most democratic voters that genocide is permissable enough to not disqualify a candidate.

[-] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I think the sad thing is people thinking that if it were Trump instead of Biden right now, there wouldn't be any genocide. When in fact trump would be supporting genocide both in Gaza and in Ukraine.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So how much genocide in your opinion is okay to vote for under the suspicion that someone else might also do a genocide?

Because either you're admitting theres no way to vote ourselves out of genocide or that joes genocides is okay because someone else MAY also preside over genocide. Thats a new one, this genocide is acceptable because if it wasn't this, it would just be another genocide, do I have that right?

Im of the opinion that I cannot materially support genocide. Call it single issue voterism if you want but to me never again means never again, not never again unless maybe the someone else would also finance genocide. Having boundaries is healthy and just, and if genocide is only a soft boundary for someone then I place no value in what they have to say.

[-] beetus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Is your intent to refuse to vote in the next election?

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I dont believe voting does much, but I know refusing to vote doesn't do anything, I don't see why I wouldn't show up.

[-] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In FPTP a non-vote is still a vote. I am consistently astonished at Lemmy being unable to understand this simple concept.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We'd still get genocide regardless of who the president is. The killing machine operates the same no matter who pulls the levers.

I won't vote for genocide.

[-] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago

Well yeah but that's a lot different than what the guy I replied to said

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

No it's not.

Their point was that liberals are okay with genocide under Democrats, but if Trump was president they'd be against it. No one thinks that, if Trump were president, there wouldn't be a genocide. The genocide is non negotiable.

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