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Sometimes I need to hear this
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Ah I think either I missed your point completely or you missed my point a bit.
Buzzwords are the entire vector used in delivering the message.
My question boils down to: Why use inefficient propaganda? Just because an old book used a particular phrase?
Memes are propaganda, and all I'm trying to say is that this could be done a very tiny bit better.
Giving up on the languages used is essentially giving up on the people who you want on your side... Isn't it?
As for your last point, I appear to be a dingus! Lol, what do you mean by "solidarity should only be for your economics class"?
Does the truth of a matter hold no value unless it gets shit done? Like, is your angle that it doesn't matter whether the feeling is real or not, so long as it's not productive to "our" (but who is we/our/etc all that pedantic bs etc etc) goals, it's justified in being called false? And if that is your position, does that not alienate people who have particularly strict measures for what constitutes something as true vs false/how would that be justified? (Then again, if I've mistaken what you meant by that line, this entire bit will probably make no sense, so if it seems like I'm way off base, please feel absolutely free to just ignore this whole section lol I like talking but not fighting, but I worry I may not come off that way here... So apologies in advance if that is the case)
When speaking of solidarity, it's a short form of saying class solidarity. So, true solidarity would be a member of the working class standing in solidarity with other members of the working class. When you see billionaires supporting the decisions of other billionaires they're showing solidarity for the bourgeois class. It's a term intended to spread and support class consciousness.
I understand your point on buzzwords, but sometimes vibes are more important than the semantics. But these is an Internet meme, not a political campaign. If you want to spread your buzzwords around, go ahead, they seem fun. But the vibes in this meme would remain the same if you swap false out with a better word. The intent is to teach members of the working class that supporting the bourgeois class is stupid.
As well as not letting the bourgeois define your preferences and ideals of what makes a good life, consuming the aesthetic of luxury/opulence etc. so you can experience some false sense that you aren't actually working class.
Also recognizing the opposite, when working class aesthetics are appropriated by the bourgeois.