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Nonbinary Teacher in Florida Fired for Using Mx. Title
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this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2023
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The thread shows there are downsides.
I’ve skimmed the thread and I don’t see any compelling reasons. Could you cite some?
I am 100% supportive of trans rights, but using precious political will, energy and attention to pressure non trans people to stop using gendered titles is a hugely divisive distraction.
That the thread exists shows that there are downsides (to expand upon what I meant). I would say my perspective is that if you remove the barriers we have imposed upon ourselves, there is less to divide. Removal of gendered labelling for bathrooms, and making Mr/Ms/Miss/Mrs (which is inherently biased against women) obsolete would allow for names to take precedence instead of your 'status'.
The existence of the thread is not an argument. Thats just intellectually dishonest. You wouldn’t tolerate such lazy argumentation from someone who says that they want to impose gendered titles, and the existence of a thread discussing it is “proof” enough.
You’ve now provided a different argument: you claim it removes divisions. Except this is very divisive. Just leave people alone: let people use their gendered titles, and let others not use them!
How so? Someone was fired over their usage of Mx. How is removing gendered titles divisive?
You think that the answer to not allowing someone to use their preferred title is to not allow someone to use their preferred title?
Using neutral language, yes, like neutral bathrooms. The title is a way to be neither, and no title achieves the same result.
So, then you don't support using preferred gendered affirming pronouns.
That's a logical fallacy.
So you support gender affirming pronouns, just not gender affirming titles. Makes sense.
Usage of 'they' has proliferated to the extent that most people seem to grasp its usage.
OK?
Most people have always grasped its usage because it has always been used. That's usually something that has to be explained to bigots.
But that isn't the same thing as respecting the usage of personal preferences for gendered pronouns and titles. Which is also something that has to be explained to bigots. And that is what this thread is about.
OK?
I dunno. The proposition to nullify peoples preferences seems counterproductive. Frankly, it feels similar to the authoritarian approach taken in the article.