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Americans don't want to fight for their country anymore
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The country isn't, like, its own entity. America isn't real. There isn't some ideological spirit of America that you can separate from the people that run it. At most you could argue that America is also its culture, but uh, the culture has been pretty fucking bad since the start!
American society is terrible. America's government is terrible. American culture is terrible. It's an irredeemable shithole country.
What the fuck would you fight for?
Actually there is. They talk and talk and talk about it ad nauseam. They simply just do it rhetorically and always fail to embody it. Even countries with a traditionally large immigrant population like the United States have a lot more culturally that tends to bind, then they have differences that divide. And after all what is a country? If not the people in it?
As an internationalist I guess I don't get it. As far as I'm concerned we should be fighting for everyone, not soloing the world off along imaginary lines on map. What makes an American different from a Canadian? Or a Mexican?
We're all the same, more or less. Let's work together.
You are misrepresenting intentional or unintentional fighting for something with fighting against something. And even then, fighting for your community or neighbors. Isn't a synonym for armed conflict. Every community will have slightly different needs and desires. And there will never be a large body, especially not an international one. That will be able to address them adequately.
Everyone has the same needs! We all need food, healthcare, shelter, safety, community, family, etc. We're all the same. Sure, some communities might have different wants, but need is universal.
Family, community, shelter, etc etc etc can all be quite different from group to group. There is no one size fits all.
I don't think I believe that. There are particulars that can differ and individual members of each group can differ, but once you zoom out to the scale of nations everyone is the same. What makes Americans so uniquely special that they're different from Canadians?