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[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Both. Just like race. Its subject to change based on changing concepts, but are regardless of which version of the social construct is used, race and gender are generally based vaguely on immutable things.

[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I think the analogy with race is a good one, but it also raises further questions. I profess to be unclear about how we should think about race.

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure I can help with that question. I just know the answer isn't disingenuously adapting the language of equality to attack those oppressed by the system of race by acting like "black lives matters" is bad. Likewise, using "gender abolition" as an excuse to be a TERF by getting mad at trans people for fitting any stereotypes of their gender (while ignoring cis people doing the same thing) or telling trans people they're delusional. Even if long-term we want to eliminate race and gender, it doesn't mean we can ignore the relatively short-term impacts they've had historically and continue to have.

[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I have the same problem with the implication that race and gender are social constructs so they don't matter. The impacts that these aspects of identity have in the real world matter a great deal to many people. Saying they "don't exist" isn't far from saying that we can just ignore them.

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