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[-] Wookie_the_Ewok@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

Serious question...Why are these Republicans so pro-Russia? I don't get it.

[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

Because they envy Putin's oligarchy and the nationalism of the Russian population which makes them easy to control.

Make no mistake - these people want Gilead more than anything. I mean they literally keep saying it over and over again. They are domestic terrorists and enemies of the west. And everyone is going to pretend like this is a "difference of opinion" until it is too late.

[-] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago
[-] vd1n@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Money. There's no way Russia/rich people/criminals aren't playing with these people. My conspiracy is that these people are so dumb they don't know that they are being used or they are just really narcissistic.

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[-] jackpot@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

hold on what are you on about this is so vague, are you saying theres vast criminal networks in yiur hometown hiding in plain sight? im so confused

[-] quark@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

Luckily

Yeah, I wanna hear more about this!

[-] downdaemon@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

What about Russia would they dislike?

[-] Shikadi@wirebase.org 23 points 1 year ago

Well they're always yelling about how liberals are socialist or communist, and Russia was previously socialist and communist. Also they say they don't like government to control things, and the Russian government controls everything. They hate on NPR and call it state sponsored, while all Russian media is state sponsored. So yeah, you would think they wouldn't like Russia, but only if you thought they actually believe the shit they say.

[-] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

and Russia was previously socialist and communist

The current Russian regime uses heavy Anti-Soviet messaging, and demonizes socialism as much as American conservative politics. The USSR wasn't great for a lot of Russians.

Also they say they don't like government to control things

I think emphasis here needs to be on "they say", yet most non-economic policy American conservatives tout (aka the culture wars) is about injecting more government intervention in the day to day lives of Americans. Ex: Christian Prayer in schools, banning books from libraries, anti-drag bills, banning racial-inequality education, anti-gay legislation, the list goes on and on. American conservatives would love as much control over their population as Russia exerts on theirs.

They hate on NPR and call it state sponsored

Which fits their narrative, when in reality NPR only receives around 5% of government funding. They don't like NPR because they aren't easily able to be bought due to being largely crowd funded and won't immediately parrot their talking points. They would love a state funded media company that parroted their talking points which Fox News comfortably does.

If American conservatives actually believed the their talking points then yes they would be vehemently anti-Russian, but they don't. They're only pro-power which the Russian government has figured out within their borders.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Also they say they don’t like government to control things

They don't like not their government to control things.

[-] boy@feddit.nl 11 points 1 year ago

They’re probably just not getting a piece of all that laundered money from the US defense contractors

[-] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ever since Trump they've taken a strange faux "anti-interventionism" isolationist perspective. This is why they have pulled back from Afghanistan, tried to ease tensions with Russia and generally focused on their "American jobs" rhetoric. It is obviously not applied consistently, like anything in the United States since the preamble to the declaration of independence saying "We hold this truths to be self evident that all men are created equal", but this is somewhat consistent with their newer Dovish and isolationist insistence of avoiding getting tangled into conflicts abroad. Ironically for all his racist base and his constant hawkish and white supremacist rhetoric, Trump is one of the few modern Presidents to not have started any significant military intervention abroad. They have however also done a heck of a job making life as a minority in the USA way worse and wasted a ton of potential with the trade war on China and also the atrocity of giving moral/covert support to fascists abroad.

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