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[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Because it is a national liberation struggle, getting caught arguing about semantics is precisely what the settler genocides want.

[-] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Point taken.

I agree with "it's a liberation struggle, hamas is fair game" as a blanket public position from everyone that understands what's in play.

And the og post is from a public forum.

But maybe in lemmygrad we don't need the same blanket public position "between ourselves"?

Maybe the criticism is to not share those positions in public spaces, to not give any ammo to the genocidal settlers?

I see lemmygrad is technically a public space, but it's much smaller than xitter. And the audience generally understands what's in play.

Or is it the approach to dismiss the idea of discussing hamas completely, and keep focusing on the settlers atrocities, with a general "there's no need to talk hamas. It's a liberation struggle", including within lemmygrad?

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that. But I'd probably disagree with the approach to how criticism was made in the op.

[-] relay@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 months ago

I think that is the problem with social media in general. Many times people like to make hay out of taking things out of context. Also I think people don't understand that the further away from something that you are, the less of an impact one can have on more particular things like culture. If one is a Palistinian in Gaza that is fighting for womens/lgbt rights we have no beef with them in particular, but that person most likely also fighting for liberation as a primary contradictions. What womens /lgbt rights can there be when they can be slaughtered for no reason by the IDF?

An outsider also can't really impose social norms nor should they expect to. womens and lgbt rights must be fought for domestically within their cultural context to have a full grassroots impact.

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