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[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

SMS is also plain text, what's the big deal?

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 43 points 1 year ago

The premise of the app is not sending plain text messages.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

E2E encryption is one of the main points of iMessage.

Giving your iCloud credentials to someone that isn’t Apple is already kind of shady. They needed the security around this product to be bullet proof. I don’t know why anyone would be quick to trust Sunbird after this.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Probably a privacy policy issue? Its okay to do stuff in plaintext, but the privacy policy must make that clear.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Literally from their FAQ

Are my messages secure? Yes, Nothing Chats is built on Sunbird’s platform and all Chats messages are end-to-end encrypted, meaning neither we nor Sunbird can access the messages you’re sending and receiving.

And regardless, if they removed this line and added privacy policy like “we do not encrypt messages and can read them whenever we like” should kill their entire platform.

[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

No, read the article. App claimed to be end-to-end encrypted, it was anything but.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but what about the other user who’s texting a sunbird client and thinks everything is E2E encrypted?

[-] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Security and privacy minded people dont use iMessage and not even an iPhone. The ecosystem is so close that you don't know what's going on behind just Apple.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Do you have anything substantive to say around E2EE encryption on iMessage?

The whole point of E2EE is so that a middle man, including the Apple, cannot read it. Apple has been very publicly opposed to providing encryption backdoors that could be accessed by Apple, law enforcement, etc. Backdoors usually get sniffed out and become widespread security vulnerabilities.

[-] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Thats their marketing strategy. Selling you a device no one can spy you except us. ;)

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That’s not how E2EE works. If they did have a back door, that would eventually get exploited and we’d all learn about it.

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