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[–] guriinii@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (53 children)

You know that this phrase means the end of illegal occupation, right?

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It means different things to different people. There are definitely a few that use it with a genocidal intent. But as you said that he's not it's de facto or historical meaning. It has a much longer history than the last few months. Most people complaining about it only just learned of it. And have no idea about its history or what it actually tends to mean.

[–] Globeparasite@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It has a much longer history than the last few months Like the HAMAS

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hamas didn't exist until 20 years after the illegal occupation started.

[–] Globeparasite@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

and the HAMAS is 36 years old. By the way when my country was occupied, the embryos of what would become our main resistance didn't wait 20 years to begin resisting... more like 20 minutes. So to me that sound like a serious blow to the "HAMAS is Palestinian Resistance"

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

Way to misconstrue what I said, but ok.

[–] DreamerofDays@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago

It’s both. If it didn’t have a plausible legitimate use, it wouldn’t work as a dog whistle.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/09/us/politics/river-to-the-sea-israel-gaza-palestinians.html

Everybody has bad actors, and they serve to complicate what oughtn’t be complicated, including language.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't mind them. They probably felt uncomfortable hearing "Black Lives Matter" too. Saying it's a call for genocide for white people.

[–] guriinii@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I saw a sign from a protest says, "I thought you said all lives matter."

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Yes, and the end of those "illegal occupiers" too.

Both sides want to genocide each other, it's just that Israel is more powerful and Palestine is the underdog

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