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My internal fight over what device to buy
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The best option would be a Pixel running GrapheneOS. If you don't want a Pixel, a well supported device with DivestOS (look for a recent one with a relockable bootloader) would be your best option. Debloating a stock OS isn't recommended since those apps will come back anyway should the system update. Leaving your bootloader unlocked and rooting your phone as well is detrimental to Android security. Please don't do that. See a third party OS comparison Also see:
thanks for the answer!
really? at every OS update they will be brought back? there is no way to prevent that?
my option #2 was to unlock the bootloader only to debloat and to flash privileged apps like fdroid, and then lock it again. Would this still be dangerous?
Unfortunately, yeah, see this discussion on stock Android debloating . As for 2, I don't think you even need that anymore, the new F-Droid basic apps can do automatic update out of the box.
I think system apps are basically baked into the OS/ROM image (probably not the right term, but you know what I mean) which is why you can often only disable them - that's how they're there in the first place, they need to still exist somewhere so they come back on a factor reset. Don't know if a system update would necessarily bring them back though.
Unlocking the bootloader to install a ROM and then re-locking it is fine (I believe that's what GrapheneOS does at least), just don't leave it unlocked when you're done. Root is the big security vulnerability so best not to have it unless you really really need it and are willing to take the risk. I don't think you need a bootloader unlock for installing any apps though, isn't fdroid just a normal app install?
I can install fdroid with low privileges, but it will ask for permission at every update and install. Installing it with elevated privileges will allow for background updates, like Google Play does
That isn't needed anymore, I think F-Droid basic can auto-update apps now. https://f-droid.org/packages/org.fdroid.basic/