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A voter-approved Oregon gun control law violates the state constitution, a judge ruled Tuesday, continuing to block it from taking effect and casting fresh doubt over the future of the embattled measure.

The law requires people to undergo a criminal background check and complete a gun safety training course in order to obtain a permit to buy a firearm. It also bans high-capacity magazines.

The plaintiffs in the federal case, which include the Oregon Firearms Federation, have appealed the ruling to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The case could potentially go all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

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[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Lmao you'd lose any war you fought.

The idea that you can own a gun and be safe from state violence has never once paid off for anyone who buys into it.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

be safe from state violence

Appeasing the status quo is only an option for the privileged, Clyde.

Do tell... will the pigs be siccing their Klan and neo-nazi proxies onto you first thing or won't they?

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

How many police and Nazis have you shot? Would you like to compare it to how many people neo-nazis and racist police have shot?

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

racist police

There is any other kind of police?

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, the ones that come after major reforms to training and accountability, that you haven't shot your way to, despite insisting that it's not just possible, but ideal.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

the ones that come after major reforms to training and accountability

ROFLMAO!

Do tell... how do you "reform" something that is working as intended?

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It's cool, we don't need to, because you're going to shoot the problem better with your guns, the moment you've finished letting the internet know how tough and cool you are.

Probably safe to leave it for a few more summary executions of minorities and domestic terrorist attacks trageting children though right?

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So your only "answer" to all of this is to render the targets of fascism even more vulnerable than they already are.

Just bog-standard liberalism, eh?

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Love the gymnastics.

A Nazi and an "undesirable" are locked in a room together. You give the Nazi a gun, but somehow, magically, you haven't made their soon-to-be murder victim "more vulnerable". But if I say "stop giving guns to fucking fascists", I'm the one making people "more vulnerable".

Of course, it doesn't end there. When people ask you why the fuck you're always giving Nazis guns, your answer is "well the minority could have had a gun too, so they'd have been even, but only the Nazi asked".

But "evening the odds" by arming neither? Nope, that's unacceptable, the odds can only be evened with guns.

Sounds to me like you've been getting your opinions from racists and people who profit from gun sales and you haven't even noticed.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

But if I say “stop giving guns to fucking fascists”

Except that's not what you're saying at all.

But “evening the odds” by arming neither?

You don't even seem to understand that you are arming fascists with your tax dollars, Clyde - you don't get a choice in the matter, either. Where the fuck do you think the white supremacist support group you optimistically call police get their arsenals from?

Who do you think does the dirty work of keeping a fundamentally white supremacist society fundamentally white supremacist?

The tooth fairy, maybe?

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You genuinely think you're a hero for just owning a gun don't you? Nobody is intimidated, least of all the police.

You can't simultaneously claim that the police are a white supremacist group only out to kill minorities and that selling idiots and domestic abusers firearms stops the police from being a white supremacist group only out to kill minorities.

But why bother with logic, let alone facts. That doesn't sell nearly as many guns as lying and astroturfing does.

The reason your views on guns line up perfectly with high ranking members of a group you've repeatedly claimed are unreformable fascists is because that's exactly where those views have come from.

But don't worry, I'm sure that people who want to murder their way to an ethnostate and slave economy wouldn't just lie and tell you that something that helps them is actually the only way to harm them.

Like every useful idiot, they told you something you wanted to be true and you wrapped your warm little mouth around then and swallowed without a single critical thought.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You can’t simultaneously claim that the police are a white supremacist

I don't have to claim that which is patently obvious, Clyde... or will you be demanding proof that the earth isn't flat next?

But why bother with logic, let alone facts.

Which logic is that, Clyde? You can't even see the police for what they truly are - you shouldn't be harping on about "logic".

The reason your views on guns line up perfectly with high ranking members of a group you’ve repeatedly claimed are unreformable fascists

Yes, I admit it... actual leftists and right-wingers agree that weaponry (which includes a whole bunch of stuff apart from firearms) are necessary tools. We both agree that hammers are used for nails, too. Or that living creatures generally require oxygen.

I’m sure that people who want to murder their way to an ethnostate and slave economy

Are you talking about those people you have readily admitted you will offer no resistance to? Are those the people you are talking about?

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Best of luck with your gun store.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm a leftist, Clyde... these crates of AKs are not for sale - they are for distribution.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Whatever lies help you sleep at night but we both know you've never given away a gun, just like you've never done anything except enable mass shootings and hate crimes.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Whatever lies help you sleep at night

I'm not the one trying to make life easy for fascists - that's you, Clyde.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nothing strange about asking white liberals how they will be appeasing the fascists once the fascists are in power - after all, you will not be the ones they target first, will you?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

... first they came for the communists

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

... and the pro-gun community did nothing because they hate communists.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

it's a poem about nazi Germany.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
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