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[-] the_q@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago

Gamers continue to tell these companies that they'll put up with anything while complaining online and continuing to purchase shitty games from shitty companies. Rinse and repeat.

This is 90% on consumers. Stop buying shit if you want change and I mean in any industry.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

this is what companies want you to think. it's like expecting drivers to be sensible so that we can reduce deaths from traffic accidents. it's not a solution. we have traffic lights, seat belts, all sorts of security systems and regulations on car manufacturers (though not nearly enough).

consumer protection doesn't happen by telling everyone to be sensible. regulation is needed.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago
[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

One congressperson at a time.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahah...

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You got a better alternative, than pulling down your pants and bending over?

[-] the_q@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

You think voting in a system built to keep those in power and those like the ones in power isn't functioning exactly as intended? Are you 12? Grow up.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Are you 12? Grow up.

Noticed you're not answering the question...

You got a better alternative, than pulling down your pants and bending over?

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Confirmed 12 years old.

The only way to change things is to burn it to the ground and start over. Can't vote for that, kiddo.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

literally no one over the age of 12 calls random people online "kiddo". seems like you're projecting here.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Ok, kiddo! You really added a lot to the conversation!

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

The only way to change things is to burn it to the ground and start over.

It's easy to destroy, harder to create.

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

though not nearly enough)

Yes...there's enough. There's a reason a new car costs 30k. We don't need radar, adaptive cruise, and fucking front facing cameras (yes, thats a real thing) standard.

I just want a heavy duty roll cage, a 200cc engine, and seat belts. All for 2k.

(The car safety standards are a sore point for me)

[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago

Gamers as a population really have to stop FOMO'ing into the newest games because their friends do.

Even if it's blatantly obvious it's going to be or is a bad game people still buy them because of the network effect.

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

90% on consumers? I don't know I'd go that far... If a company is evil but provides a service people still desire, that doesn't make the evil company being evil the fault of the consumers. Like saying gun control in America is resisted primarily by its citizens when we are well aware that company lobbying is mostly at fault and most citizens are actually for some amount of gun control.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Anyone who supports a company knowing how they conduct their business causes harm etc, is complicit. Once that information is learned a choice has to be made.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

That only works if there's meaningful competition. With megabrands like Nestle who make 1/4 of the grocery store, or game publishers like Ubisoft who receive 1/4 of the industry's revenue any kind of boycott is dead before it begins.

In a society with a functioning government, megabrands who abuse their neighbors and/or customers would be hit with significant fines and be heavily regulated out of the bad behaviors, but the US hadn't had a government interested in helping the common person for over half a century

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I don't disagree. I disagree with the idea that it's 90% the fault of the consumer.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

How is it not? We're all to blame.

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

The consumer is 90% to blame for the actions of an international corporation who have analyzed and manipulated their target demographic? If it were a relationship you'd be victim blaming. If I hit you for being stupid, is it your fault because you were stupid or is it my fault for thinking hitting you was a solution?

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Oh geeze... Ok, bud. You're right. You're the smartest. Nice work.

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Stop buying shit if you want change and I mean in any industry.

so we should boycott every industry out there?

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I mean, do you want things to change or do you just want to complain?

[-] Buttons@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

They said nothing about boycotting the industry. Buy games from good companies and good indie devs, that's not a boycott.

[-] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 year ago

The death of the sun will arrive before gamers actually do a boycott that is successful, because boycotts (especially for popular franchises or products) don't work. If you rally up 10,000 people for a boycott, it's less than 1% of sales AAA studios get and 70% of the boycotters are still going to buy the game regardless.

No change is going to happen ever, so the best thing to do is to start ignoring the AAA gaming industry altogether on a personal level.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

A boycott only works if there's meaningful alternatives. When one publisher effectively owns an entire genre of games. Expecting consumers to boycott is exactly what the big publishers want because it's inneffective, what the publishers don't want is for regulators to start paying attention

[-] Buck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Voting with your wallet doesn't work. Nobody will call you to ask why you didn't buy a product, and marketing will just come up with a bogus reason on why sales are poor.

Talking about it on social media helps a lot more.

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You can do both you know.

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