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Help me choose my mobile browser
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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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Fennec (Firefox based), with Ghostery and uBlock origin installed.
You'll have to set add-ons up as a private collection for them to work, but it's easy as pie.
https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/wiki/4.1-Extensions#-dont-bother
Just setup links to open in private browsing mode, and clear cookies on browser exit.
Nope, you should set up site exception. Site exceptions are much better than just leaving cookies persistent. Cookies both function as a method to track and an easy way for a hacker to steal session tokens. Always prefer the native method, reducing attack surface and providing better function with browser APIs. Read the resource wiki linked from Arkenfox user.js
Interesting, I'll look deeper into that. They have an adblocking engine as well though and catch a few random ones uBlock doesn't, so I'm not totally convinced they are fully redundant.
You can add lists in ublock..
Yes, and I do, and yet there are still some escapees. Might be a fringe case as I live in Asia, but at least for me it serves a purpose.
Find the escapees, put them on the list or find a list including them for your particular use-case.
I dont have much things getting through, mostly small sites displaying things, so i just add a filter myself.
Afaik Ghostery was bought and started tracking its users.. or was that another popular extension? Happened to alot of these.. pretty sure it was Ghostery?
Right, I'll look into that. Thanks!
Mull is similar to Fennec except with some privacy tweaks. Generally Mull is better.
You don't need Ghostery anymore
Ghostery sends like every website you visit to their servers. Its opt-out and Ublock origin is better anyways. Firefox really has a problem of not marking bad addons
Mull works the same as Fennec, except it is hardended with patches from Tor and Arkenfox user.js. No real reason IMO to use fennec over Mull, whose developers also contribute to Fennec. Ghostery also changes your fingerprint, acting as one more data point. Mull has a whole bunch of configured flags to reduce fingerprinting, and many more to help with security (like disabling JIT).
Check here for some comparisons:
https://divestos.org/pages/browsers
https://privacytests.org
Following the pro-Mull comments here I've given it a try for a solid 48h, and just reverted back to Fennec. Mull is simply restricting the user experience too much, and I'm not willing to make the sacrifice.
My biggest annoyances:
I'm aware that those details are suppressed to avoid fingerprinting, and while I believe that the intention is good, it makes using my phone more cumbersome, and that's not something I'm willing to do. So my choices at this point are basically to keep using Mull and deactivate the advanced fingerprinting protection, or use Fennec as before.
Firefox resistant fingerprinting does the first 2 things, the last one is mobile partial letterboxing. All are anti fingerprinting techniques, but i understand how they may be restrictive. Maybe just add dark reader to have dark mode forced on websites, which technically can be fingerprinted but has a large userbase so idk.
Hmm but On FF there are no way to see induvidual site data
Addons
Hmm but I dont see anyone working the way I want. Can u explain which addon to use? And how to use them?
You can delete cookies and data on a per-site basis, and advanced tracking protection prevents any nefarious websites from exploiting your browser. That's all I care for.
In firefox android, I dont see any way to delete cookie+site data per site basis. Are u talking about chromium?
No, I'm talking about Firefox. Fennec, that is, but the key functions are all the same.
It's not in the settings however, you need to open the site in question and press the lock icon in the address bar next to the URL, the context menu there allows to delete cookies and site specific data.
Thanks a lot setup complete, Thanks to all on thread
Cookies are partitioned in Firefox strict mode IIRC.