Labour grassroots back Starmer’s new stance on gender, allies claim after poll (www.theguardian.com)

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Allies of Keir Starmer claim he has the backing of Labour’s grassroots over his stance on sex- and gender-based rights after a new poll of members suggested they support the party’s updated position on the issue.

The party shifted its stance in the summer, abandoning its support for self-identification – which would allow people to legally change gender without a medical diagnosis. It announced the move alongside support for making the process of obtaining a gender recognition certificate far simpler and less invasive, as well as continuing to ensure some single-sex services and places could only be accessed by biological women.

While the issue remains a controversial one within the party, Labour Together, a group closely associated with Starmer, said a new YouGov poll of Labour members it commissioned showed broad support for the leadership’s new line.

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[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 17 points 1 year ago

continuing to ensure some single-sex services and places could only be accessed by biological women.

Can we talk about how stupid the phrase 'biological women' is? Like, are trans women robots or something? And why is it put in unchallenged while gender dysphoria gets scare quotes?

Also, it's so depressing that something Theresa May proposed has become too left-wing of a policy for Starmer and his Labour Party.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 6 points 11 months ago

Can we talk about how stupid the phrase ‘biological women’ is?

If international sporting bodies can't come up with a working definition of what is a woman, despite all the incentive, resources and access to expert advice, then politicians are always going to try and hand-wave this away.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago

Well what other term would you suggest to specify a female-born woman with two x chromosomes?

[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 6 points 11 months ago

Cis woman? It does include some intersex people, but honestly when do you need to know someone's chromosome makeup in everyday life?

[-] Biohazard@feddit.uk -1 points 11 months ago

Trans women are biological men. They do or did produce small gametes if healthy because they heave XY chromosomes. Biological women do or did produce large gametes if healthy because they have XX chromosomes.

That's why you use the phrase biological women and biological men. Society can be respectful and let them dress and live as normally as they can but they are men and shouldn't be allowed in biological women's spaces.

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