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PHOENIX (AP) -- The 2024 presidential election is drawing an unusually robust field of independent, third party and long shot candidates hoping to capitalize on Americans' ambivalence and frustration over a likely rematch between Democrat Joe Biden and Republican Donald Trump.

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[-] LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works 98 points 11 months ago

Don't vote for a third party. That's just voting for Trump with extra steps.

[-] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

I think a lot of people thinking about voting third party are going to need reasons TO vote for someone, not reasons to not vote for the other guy. Telling them “it’s just voting for Trump” isn’t going to convince them.

And no, I’m not planning on voting third party. But finger-wagging won’t convince anyone already looking elsewhere.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 13 points 11 months ago

In other words lots of people have an incredibly childish attitude about voting and are completely prepared to throw a little tantrum in the voting booth even if it means fascists get to take over the whole federal government. I'm becoming pretty convinced that people like that are just incapable of rational decision making.

[-] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It’s crazy how people view voting. In life we have so many situations where we look at realistic options and choose the best thing, or even the least bad thing, from those options.

But then with voting people feel like making their vote should be like wishing on a birthday cake. It’s totally irrational, as you say.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

If we don't accept that irrational people exist and do what we can to get their votes, we risk the return of Trump.

But it's way more fun to shout at them.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

One can't cater to or court the irrational. We can however stop humoring them and giving them undeserved respect. That might lead more rational people to mistakenly consider them.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

One can’t cater to or court the irrational.

Republicans keep doing it. They beat Clinton in 2016 by doing it.

Centrist Democrats would rather lose than debase themselves by moving one Planck length to the left.

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[-] Potatofish@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago

Nah, the number one reason to vote lately is to prevent Trump from pissing all over democracy. Even Republicans are joining in.

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[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

It's gonna be republicans making a protest vote. Democrats are in lock step for once

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Trump might be the biggest reason to vote against him, but Republicans have played all their cards and threatened the American people's rights. Even if he is locked up, Biden would still win.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I hope your confidence is founded.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

And no, I’m not planning on voting third party. But finger-wagging won’t convince anyone already looking elsewhere.

[finger-wagging intensifies]

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Republicans are all for third party candidates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingent_election

[-] spider@lemmy.nz 2 points 11 months ago

Telling them "it's just voting for Trump" isn’t going to convince them.

They also use that argument against people who don't show up to vote -- the very same people who might show up for a candidate they want to vote for.

In other words, despite conventional wisdom to the contrary, they might not vote for a two-party candidate anyway.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

There are people who, despite the entirety of human history, fail to take into account that people aren't always rational. In fact, they're deeply offended by the suggestion and become hostile towards anyone who suggests that they should take this into account, even in situations in which the consequences for failing to do so are dire.

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