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[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Very interesting. Exactly the type of information I was looking for, thanks for providing. I do wonder why the question was down voted. That doesn't seem like a productive way to achieve the desired result if the desired result is to convince more people that giving up beef is the lowest hanging fruit on the path to fighting climate change.

If anyone who down voted me reads this, please tell me why you did so that I may better understand how to communicate effectively.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago

I think it got downvotes because the people pushing the question tend to be promoting the idea that we could have a wonderful pure environment if only we killed off all the brown people.

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Sure. But then shouldn't people be convincing those people of why that thinking is bad? See my other comment regarding building consensus:

https://lemmy.world/comment/5637524

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

That's why I had a comment explaining why it's bad. Downvotes serve to make it less visible

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh yes, I wasn't pointing a finger at you specifically. Rather, I thought your response was excellent! I'm more just pointing out the civility of our discourse so that other people can learn effective communication strategies, and better my own as well. Thank you for your reasonable responses.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

If anyone who down voted me reads this, please tell me why you did so that I may better understand how to communicate effectively.

i like to reduce the visibility of malthusian ponderings.

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hmm... I understand the desire for reducing the spread of damaging theories, but there also seems to be an element of burying one's head in the sand to that approach. Wouldn't it be more productive to explain logically and dispassionately what the problems with the thought processes are rather than ignore the problem?

How does that approach build consensus to effect meaningful policy change?

Simply ignoring the person's position doesn't convince them to vote differently.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I don't care for voting. I don't care to debate.

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Fair enough! That makes sense to me.

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