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[-] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I honestly feel like they should just release Squadron 42 now and then do Star Citizen. Let us have the ships and combat in an Ace Combat style game just in case Star Citizen never release.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 19 points 11 months ago

That's the plan. They started with star citizen being the focus and then 2 years ago they pulled most of the staff to finish SQ42. Now that they're in the "polishing phase" for sq42 they have started pulling people back to work on star citizen. Next year is going to be big for star citizen, very very important core tech being implemented and a deluge of content should come with the reallocation of workers to star citizen.

Source: I'm literally obsessed with star citizen/sq42 and know too much about it, send help. (My wallet is ok lol)

[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Ah yes next year will be amazing for Star Citizen. I wonder when it will finally come...

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 11 months ago

Honestly, I don't see star citizen being "complete" for another 5-6 years lol next year will be awesome though if they can get server meshing implemented so they can try to nail down server performance. Right now it's atrocious lol

[-] okmko@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"(On SQ42) ...but our plan is to be feature and content complete by the end of 2019, with the first 6 months of 2020 for Alpha ... and then Beta." - Chris Roberts, 2018

Apparently the order of operations is reversed for Chris Roberts in that both "feature complete" and "content complete" come before both "alpha" and "beta".

There might even be a "delta" and "gamma" - you never know when it comes to this man and the absolute slipperiness he employs with the English language.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

... That is how it works? You aren't in beta until you're feature and content complete, that's the final stage for any game. Alpha is mostly content complete, but pretty much always feature complete.

The people who bastardized the usage of those words are the steam early access devs that call a game with 1 feature completed and almost no content an EA beta.

[-] okmko@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Is it the early access games, or is it just Chris Roberts' history of being deceptive?

I mean, if SQ42 is truly close to being released, if it requires a last push, shouldn't all employees continue to work on the project? Usually the final stages of a project require more work, not less.

Why would you suddenly "prioritize porting features from SQ42 to SC" if releasing SQ42 is a goal?

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

Because those people aren't currently needed for the things that need to be done in sq42. They didn't move everyone, it seems like a lot of the people they've spoken about moving over are art related and some tech people that aren't needed for "polishing."

Star citizen hit a point where they knew that large complicated tech was going to take time to implement and they couldn't progress with content as the servers can't handle it until the aforementioned tech is in so I think they made a reasonable decision to pull as many people over to SQ42 while the networking people and the core tech people worked on star citizen. Within the next few months we're going to see if they can complete that core tech needed for the servers and that will allow for work to continue on as far as content/future systems.

All that said, Chris is absolutely horrendous at giving dates and I'm glad he stopped himself at citizencon this year. I would love to ask him what made him think 2020 was a reasonable estimate for anything lol

[-] okmko@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I see. Well, I guess I'll see you in 2 years then when they inevitably pull off another swap and move all resources from SC back onto SQ42, and use that as an excuse, yet again, for why significant progress isn't happening now, but soon in the near-future.

I'll even mark my calendar ๐Ÿ˜‰

[-] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Fingers Crossed.

I backed back on kickstarter, and still wanna play it.

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