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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world to c/autism@lemmy.world

This is a reminder that you must be at least 18 years old to access Lemmy World per their Terms of Service (ToS). Additionally, as moderators of this community, we are obliged to report violations of this rule, so we will have to report it to the admin team if a user in this community explicitly identifies as younger than 18 years old.

We have reached out to the admins requesting for a modification to the rules if !autism@lemmy.world were to adjust its rules to accommodate the needs of 16 and 17 year-olds. While they were understanding, it seems that the necessary changes are not possible at the moment. Therefore, unless the ToS change, if anyone identifies themselves as younger than 18 years old on !autism@lemmy.world, we will have to report your account. We would hate for someone to get invested in this community, develop a bond, and then have it suddenly taken away. At the same time, we don’t want to jeopardize it by helping users violate terms and ultimately the trust we have with the admin team.

We appreciate your understanding and compliance with this matter.

!autism@lemmy.world Mods

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[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

We entertained that idea as well, but our interpretation of the following quote (emphasis is mine) led us to decide that anyone accessing the site in any fashion, wether from another instance or not, is violating the ToS. If you hear otherwise from the admin team, please let us know.

4.1: No one under 18 years of age is allowed to use or access the website. There may be designated sections of the website that may require you to be older to use them, so please read all notices and any additional terms carefully when you access Lemmy.World.

[-] DivergentHarmonics@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The TOS are unambiguous concerning the meaning of the term "website".

This Terms of Service applies to your access to and active use of <www.lemmy.world> ("we,""us," "our," "the website," "Lemmy.World," or "LW"). ​

So this is used in the common sense of "data coherently served under one domain/subdomain name which is intended to be displayed by web browsers". It totally doesn't concern someone who interacts with content originally posted on lemmy.world from a different federated server (or a lemmy client? idk if the API would run on the "www" subdomain but doubt it). They are even somewhat overspecific with the "www". Not even the web interface runs on a "www" subdomain which means that no-one ever interacts with such a website anyway.

So in order to be correct your job would be to ask anyone with a lemmy.world account who states they are younger than 18, if they are posting through the www interface ... 🤷
I just checked where the images are coming from, and nope they are coming not from www.lemmy.world but from lemmy.world/pictrs/.

In other words, you could totally be autistic and explain to them that those TOS hardly apply to anyone within a federated/website-independent system and therefore are hardly enforcible and ~~are reasonably bullshit~~ may need a re-work.

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

We followed up with the admin and provided the arguments that were shared in the comments here. You can see the discussion here. Basically, the rules stand as they are.

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