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[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah, it's not great, but it's up to the nations (or at least should be) to determine who's one of their own. Imposing blood quantum is still not a great way to organise society.

[-] Yaztromo@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

And? I’ve never seen anyone anywhere argue otherwise. Even the original CBC article pointed that out pretty clearly.

(Although I’ll point out the Piapot First Nation has recently come out to say her name isn’t on their membership role, so apparently the claims there are highly tenuous).

The problem isn’t that Ms. St.-Marie claims to be native because she was adopted as an adult not a native community — it’s that she has claimed for decades that she was a 60s scoop survivor, born on a Canadian reservation and adopted by white parents — none of which is true. She’s changed her story about her heritage multiple times, at times claiming she knew and visited her indigenous birth mother regularly, and other ties (like now) claiming she doesn’t know who her indigenous birth mother is. She’s claimed to have been from multiple tribes — all before being adopted as an adult into the Piapot First Nation family.

If I had been adopted as an adult by a black family, that wouldn’t give me the right to go around claiming I was a runaway slave from the pre-Civil War southern US, who came to Canada via the Underground Railroad. Ms. St.-Marie doesn’t (and shouldn’t) get a pass for her lies.

She isn’t native by heritage — and that is what she’s been lying about for decades, and that is what people have a problem with. If she “feels” native by adult adoption she just had to say so, and not lie about her actual heritage for the last 50+ years.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

She didn't say she had been adopted by them, she said she was born from first Nation parents and adopted into a white family!

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yep, and then she convinced a nation to adopt her back. It sounds like said nation might be reconsidering (based on other comments), but if they don't she's as native as the next person.

I mean, if they wanted, it's within the rights of a sovereign nation to literally sell citizenship to the highest bidder; Monaco does it. This case isn't nearly that mercenary, but either way if we say self-governance we should walk the walk as well.

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