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[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 12 points 11 months ago

I think I've gotten more conservative in that I now think a democratic system of law and slow progress for a better future is possible via peaceful means, which technically means I'm no longer for radical reform progressivism, and also I've been considering arming myself to protect my family (from Maga terrorists in the event of a civil war). But I'm still left as fuck, bro.

[-] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Conservatism the political stance isn't exactly compatible with some aspects of "democratic" or egalitarian ideals. It would be more accurate to say that maybe you consider yourself less progressive but the main throughline of "Conservative" political philosophy since it's establishment as "the right" has been one that has argued that power should not be entirely egalitarian and that the only the "right" people are the only ones who should weild authority. In a monarchist society it's the nobility, in a post monarchist society it means the wealthy intelligencia or the landlords, in a capitalist society it favors the rich and business elite and in a facist society it favors an "us" as opposed to a "them". Another feature is that It also tends to attempt to empower select individuals and focuses on expanding the executive command at the top.

While the right constantly apes the language of the left and it's tactics regularly change when you lay open the very core of the thing it's always got the same authoritarian objective. I posit that "conservative" meaning 'not prone to excess' and "Conservatism" the branch of politics really should stop being conflated at all as everyone and their dog believes that they are rational and not prone to excess and gives the false impression that one endorses the objectives of Conservatism. Since Conservatives thrive on the idea of being a moral majority depriving them of any notion that you actually endorse them is kind of nessisary to combat them.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

You should, firearms aren't just for the lunatic conservatives and the more liberal minded people who are willing to learn to defend themselves the better off society will be.

The conservative side loves to pretend they're the only ones willing to fight for something, and I'd rather them not be correct if they ever tried something large scale.

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