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That’s not exactly what happened. Circumcision was already a custom, but the rest is spot on.
What do you mean? Do you believe Abraham actually existed? Because according to the Bible God invented MGM with Abraham. And I thought we were talking about what the Bible said and how it was crazy, not whatever a historical Abraham might have actually done.
Not sure what a movie studio has to do with anything, I was just pointing out that circumcision was probably a custom in that area already.
MGM is an acronym of male genital mutilation
What an odd name for a movie studio. No wonder they shortened it.
It used to be Shithouse!
You think that 'circumcision' is not genital mutilation?
Well what is it then? I suppose you're also disregarding that fact that type 1 and 2 FGM (the most common kinds) remove an equivalent amount to MGM. I am not trying to minimise the experience of FGM survivors, but it is ludicrous to say that cutting off parts of the male genitalia is not male genital mutilation, just as it is female genital mutilation if it's done to females.
You seem to assume that all men are happy with having MGM done to them, but that is not the case. Many men suffer from physical and psychological problems as a result of MGM, such as loss of sensitivity, pain, infection, scarring, and trauma. Many men regret (if that's even the right word, seeing as they didn't have the choice) having MGM and wish they could restore their foreskins.
The claim that there are health benefits to MGM is not supported by scientific evidence. The World Health Organization states that there is no convincing evidence that MGM reduces the risk of HIV, urinary tract infections, penile cancer, or other diseases. In fact, MGM may increase the risk of some infections and complications. Even if there were slight health benefits, they would not outweigh the harms and risks of MGM, and they would not justify performing MGM without the person’s consent.
You also seem to have a double standard when it comes to FGM and MGM. You acknowledge that FGM is wrong, but you defend MGM. Some defend it as a matter of tradition or religion, although that is not your overt argument. However, tradition or religion are not valid reasons to harm another person’s body without their consent, especially as religions both advocate FGM and MGM, there is no double standard there. Both FGM and MGM violate a person's autonomy and rights. They should both be banned and condemned as human rights violations.
I hope you will reconsider your views on this issue and respect the rights of all people to have control over their own bodies.
(and I know you will be able to tell that AI was used in writing this, all I used it for was mellowing down my language, the points are mine.)
Thank you for taking the time to write this so constructively. I was feeling myself get real mean about it lol. Then I read your post and realized you already said what needed to be said. Using AI to tone it down was a good call. But I am floored at that person's point of view. Truly unreal.
Would you mind answering any other questions posed to you? Seems very disingenuous to dismiss the whole argument based on "vibes" and the fact that circumcision has shown (in a whole 2 studies) to be effective against the contraction of HIV
You don't know anything about me, I've not made up my mind on anything. I think your position on this topic is unique and would truly appreciate further insights, because I've never met anyone with your opinion besides the internet.
At some point people have to get over the memey catch phrases and start to talk like adults about this situation.
man, acronyms be gettin' out of hand ngl
Bueller, what does ngl mean?
lol nice
You'll have to specify the location and year you think this all took place in.
Not really.
Circumcision randomly starts in many places. None of them related to hygiene.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_circumcision
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision
Why would we be born with something you're supposed to cut off?
Atavism. We were evolved for different conditions. Likely different climate and definitely not wearing clothes.
But I do not claim that it is better to do that. Only that there were medical reasons to do so (even if possibly overall not beneficial).
(when administered as part of a single ~~mission~~ study in Zimbabwe funded by Bill Gates)