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Far too much emphasis is placed on what "the founding fathers" intended. So even if they intentionally mixed religion and government, I'd still believe that religion should be yeeted out of government because our government should be written to serve people living today and not elevate religion to special status.
Yeah, I really do not give a shit what a bunch of slave owners who didn't believe women should have the same rights as men intended.
I’m really curious whether your downvoter is butthurt about you pointing out the fact the FFs owned slaves or if they disagree that women should have equal rights.
No idea. People are weird.
My guess is that it was downvoted for being "presentist," as in judging the founders through the lens of contemporary morality, but that's just a guess.
Reading about France and their secular government, I prefer our system. With the caveat that many churches are abusing their tax exempt status. But overall the way the separation of church and state is elegant, in my eyes.
Like... I dont know a whole lot about it, I'm an American and all I have seen is when news blows up. But it seems like the state is effectively forcing people to never display their religion on their person through garments or jewelry, and this seems like a core feature of many religions. This restricts religious freedom, and I guess... I'm an atheist, but I've been taught its wrong to restrict religion. Maybe my issue is just a xenophobia.
On the one hand, yes the ban would restrict a particular branch of islam and on the other, the reason why those women and girls wear those head coverings is atrocious and I am not going to feel too bad that France made a token effort to stop religion from forcing that on them. And ultimately, the mentality that justified that attire says something terrible about men in general too.
This particular ban wasn't.