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If Republicans successfully cause voter intimidation in a Democratic stronghold then those individuals are charged with a federal crime and the election continues regardless of their stupidity. If Democrats enter armed conflict with those Republicans, people fucking die for no good reason.
Oh good, I'm sure the Republicans wouldn't do something illegal like try to alter the outcome of an election!
So if Republican civilians successfully cause voter intimidation, those civilians go to jail. Meanwhile the election continues regardless, and those intimidated voters would still help Republican politicians win their seats. And you say that like that's okay.
I'm not sure if there has ever been a case in the last several decades where a voter intimidation attempt altered an election outcome, it's kind of difficult to search for. Probably because all such attempts are inevitably ineffective under a system of laws.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Plenty of people convicted of the crime all the time, but almost no information on what happens afterwards if the impact were significant: would it go into special election?
How many have you killed so far then? Don't be coy.
Is the answer "zero" despite your "really good reason"?
"I have the solution to fascism"
"So you've solved fascism then?"
"No"
Nice one clown.
You have the cure for fascism (guns) and have fixed it (despite not shooting any fascists), but somehow still need to use your guns (that you've never used) to stop the fascists (that you've fixed) from intimidating people out of voting against their canditate (who is also a fascist) by killing them (which is "a good thing", that you've never done).
If you weren't selling guns, you'd be selling healing crystals.
I absolutely adore that you replied to your own "have you had a stroke?" comment.
And of course in a plot twist to shock nobody, you've told yourself to further increase the profits of the gun lobby.
I guess if you just donated to Republicans directly you wouldn't get a new toy to play make believe with.
Sure they do. You might only be a fraction of their profits, but those profits are made up of millions of fractions.
So how much of that are you comfortable donating to the Republican party, currently represented by Donald Trump and in the middle of attacking womens rights and the LGBT+ community?
It looks like if you bought a gun in 2022, around a dollar of your money most likely ended up in a Republicans election fund.
Of course, much more of your money would have gone towards legally opposing the red flag laws that should have prevented multiple mass shootings by far-right extremists, all of which are now openly celebrated in neo-nazi chat rooms.
But I'm sure you're going to undo all of that damage by parading around a polling place with a gun, which you haven't actually said you'd be doing and would accomplish nothing except further repressing votes.
You sure do help fascists a lot for someone who ostensibly opposes them. "Murdering minorities" and "preventing people from voting" are their two favourite activities in the whole world and you've given them guns, funding and aid they need to do both.
What a surprise, the gun owner is a cunt. I absolutely love the insults you chose though.
Not because they're good, but because they reveal so much about who you are under all the posturing.
I hate to break it to you, but just because you're insecure in your masculinity, doesn't mean I am too but hey, at least we worked out why guns and looking like a hero are so important to you.
You're going to have to do better than "Trump voters favorite insult, borrowed from white supremacists" and a homophobic slur.
Looks like that was the bit that upset you, but you couldn't think of an excuse until you remebered the "it's your fault I'm a bad person" defense that's so loved by abusive partners the world over that they teach it in schools as a red flag.
Nevermind, being able to control your emotions isn't a requirement for owning a gun and as long as you own a gun, you'll never need a personality.
Don't worry, there's no intelligence test for buying a gun.
and if Patriotic Democrats also die, you'll still be happy? A decent trade in your eyes?
"War is when overweight, middle aged men with no training, coordination or chain of command, parade around with small arms while the other side does a mass shooting".
I think the fantasy is probably "far-right extremist kills an expendable minority, granting me a free murder with my cool guns".
I think the fantasy is "I go to vote and some far-right extremist, intent on gunning me down for being trans, gets an argument against doing that promptly offered or constantly visible in opposition instead of simply killing me." At the very least, people willing to put themselves "out there" as willing to fight/kill/die could then be the ones to do so rather than your method of just watching us die. "Expendable minority" you say, offering nothing for any of us.
Seriously, am I supposed to want you watching me get murdered saying "at least no centrists got hurt" over IHadTwoCows keeping me from getting murdered or, hell, shooting the person who did it? I really don't understand how you think "instead of shooting people for doing murder or trying to stop them from it, just quietly let it happen" will help anyone. I wasn't going to post, even, but this baffles the hell out of me especially since you're suggesting that minorities dying is what you expect, difference being the reaction will be either "shoot the killer [before they make a mass shooting of it?]" or... what? Thoughts & prayers to the family of the deceased?
tl;dr: What are you gonna do for your "expendable minority" other than just watch them die? Seems like you're the one happy to throw people's lives away for nothing.
Cool idea, but if it actually worked then America would be the safest country in the world for minorities (and by a huge margin).
IHadTwoCows openly supports the gun laws that arm far-right extremists in the first place.
The Club Q shooter was a legal gun owner. He'd previously been arrested for making bomb threats. None of the people who stopped the shooting were armed.
The pulse nightclub shooter was a legal gun owner, despite losing jobs for joking about bringing a gun to class and in a different incident, threatening to shoot other classmates because his food may have touched pork.
I've physically defended a trans friend from violence and verbal abuse. I strongly oppose the current gun laws that routinely arm violent bigots, resulting in a homicide rate 400% higher than comparable countries. I've never voted Republican and never will.
IHadTwoCows arms neo-nazis and makes it extremely clear that you're nothing more than bait to him.
Here is your saviour using far-right insults and homophobic slurs to try and hurt my feelings by calling me effeminate
Please just get a mail in ballot if you feel unsafe.