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Always remember, both sides are just as bad!
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When you put it like that, I gotta wonder if you're not just putting the spin on it.
HEY EVERYONE, I'M PERFECT AND MY NEIGHBOR IS EVIL! KILL THEM TO DEATH!
"Akshually, I don't think you're giving the fascists a fair shake. You have to understand they have Very Good Reasons for hating minorities and pursuing policies that benefit no one but their ultrawealthy donors-"
Fuck off.
You're agreeing with me then? You just think you're not because you can't see your own side?
So what exactly does the right want in your eyes and what exactly does the other side want
Why do you think I'm gonna sit here and describe labels when my whole point is to throw the labels out so we can address issues individually and get rid of the two party system that's monopolized by the rich?
Tsk tsk, you and your labels. /s
I'm not taking about labels. What is the actual fucking policy of the two major political parties!
I don't think people usually even know that past the poster subjects.
Sometimes a neighbour really is evil.
You have to consider both sides when he's dragging bodies out of his house in black garbage bags every weekend.
Ah yeah, but that's not Democrats or Republicans. That's specific people. The labels exist to confuse the situation and you're all playing into their hand.
"The labels exist to confuse the situation"
Gee, I wonder why people the people who all loudly proclaim they're on the same side as the literal fascists all end up as literal fascists?
I guess we'll never know. These labels are just too confusing!
If i may interject : do you really not see a difference between the republican party and our archetype of nazis ?
Should they be banned then ?
I didn't realize Nazis were banned in the US. Care to offer me some legislation on the matter?
You're right at first sight, i didn't know that, interesting considering that eastern Europe banned communist symbols and political parties :
However i'm wondering if you know the republican point of view, representing half of the voting population after all. They're apparently saying that they're against poverty, but somehow believe that giving more money to the wealthy is the correct way, that they're not racist, but are mixing the consequences of being poor with the social determinism of our system(, or that we're being replaced in France), they're equating socialism with authoritarianism, saying that we don't know economy, and that crime should be fought with more "authority", and many more things, they're just mistaken and nobody deserves (y)our hate, everyone makes mistakes, i think it was the point of view of @Mango and it's also mine. I, for one, regretted their absence from reddit and also on Lemmy, it's not by excluding them that things will improve i.m.o.
You're believing that fascism is on the rise but we're no better than the fascists banning the socialists/communists if we're banning fascists instead of accepting&debating with them. Things are indeed getting worse, i agree with you on this(, and @Mango as well probably), more censorship isn't the answer i.m.o.
Man, I grew up in Small Town America(tm). I know Republicans, and I know how they think. Some of it is ignorance, like you say. But a great deal of it simply is... not. There is a great deal of bigotry and malice in the GOP rank-and-file, and I don't know how much sympathy "I wasn't paying attention to literal right-wing terror attacks on minorities when I voted for the party that encouraged them" is supposed to garner them.
In the US, neither Nazis nor Soviet-style communists are banned (nor any kind of communists, for that matter).
Hey, i'm visiting some family currently and they're watching another one of these news channels owned by billionaires, they're regularly saying that crimes are done by immigrants and totally ignoring that the poors 100% french hated the police as well 100 years ago, and did more crimes than the wealthy, it's so obvious that it isn't linked to being black or arab, that their solution of being even more cruel towards them(, social benefits, authority, police, ...,) is f*cking ignorant. They're talking all day about islam and insecurity(, which isn't growing in %, it only gives such impressions because the laws changed, surveys should be trusted instead), yet such experts would be absolutely unable to explain why these behaviours were exactly the same in the past with "true" french poors(, e.g., they called cops "les cognes", etc.). When i'm pointing the obvious(, going back millenias in the past), they'll just shrug it off and continue to call it a civilizational problem, history goes in circles.
Is it more or less the same in the u.s.a. ? I'd be interested to know your vision of their propaganda.
Yeah, it's very similar, only that there is a weird kind of nihilism peddled in the American right where problems are actually unsolvable, so the 'solution' isn't "We'll fix this" but "We'll hurt these people and that will make you feel better even if it doesn't improve anything".
My downstairs neighbors are actually my roommate's mom and a mentally handicapped dude who are both raging crazy assholes, but that's not my point, and I don't wish them any harm.