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[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 35 points 11 months ago

So independent of any woo-woo, tarot cards are designed to be a potent conceptual microcosm. That means that when you shuffle the cards and do a reading, with a decent understanding of what each of the cards represents, you essentially make a little randomly generated conceptual perspective through which to view the problem. Extremely helpful for shaking out of an established mindset, finding an unexpected angle which reveals connections you hadn't considered.

I can't really speak to astrology, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be approximately accurate for some reason other than the stars themselves. Perhaps the changing temperatures of the seasons have a slightly noticeable effect on natal development.

[-] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 40 points 11 months ago

Astrology is only accurate in that everything it says is vague and easily interpretable in multiple ways.

A teacher did an experiment where he handed his class custom astrology reports based on their birthdate, and asked them to rate how well they fit each of them. Everyone gave it a high rating, and said it was very accurate. He had them pass the paper to a different student, and everyone laughed because everyone got the exact same astrology report.

[-] clearleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Mystery Hunters flashback out of nowhere. My man Doubting Dave did this experiment.

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[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I had some friends do astrology readings for themselves that depended on the exact time they were born. I asked one of them about how they accounted for time zones and DST. (They didn't.) I may have gotten my point across.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

I'm seeing a lot of deeply unscientific arguments in these comments. This "Cult of Science" mentality is a concerning trend, where instead of thinking rationally and scientifically about something, people blindly follow whatever the contemporary consensus is. Your friends using poor methodology is not a rational argument against a field, any more than solving a math problem incorrectly invalidates math.

For what feels like the tenth time: I don't believe any star (other than the sun) has any direct significant effect on a person. However, correlation isn't causation. I do believe that it is possible that there might be other factors which vary over the course of the year which may have some effect, and that those variations can be coincidentally correlated to the zodiac phases as a convenient reference.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 11 months ago

I was just picking one critique that was easy to make without additional supporting evidence.

What you're saying about astrology possibly working is just wrong. It has been studied and found to have no predictive power, a fact you easily verify for yourself by spending a few minutes with Google.

You've got a lot of nerve calling people unscientific while simultaneously defending one of the most thoroughly debunked pseudosciences in existence.

[-] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I doubt even the Earth's rotation being completely out of phase due to inputting the wrong time will have any meaningful impact. The diameter of the Earth (7,917.5 miles) is extremely small relative to the distance to other planets. For instance, the average distance to Jupiter is 394.29 million miles away.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

There's also the position of the Earth relative to the sun. I assume that's what the astrologers are pretending to account for, since that's what knowing the date tells them.

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[-] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I believe that the time of year people are born could well have an effect on their personality. Because so much of your personality is developed in your early years, how old you were when you had your first Xmas, or whether you were the biggest (oldest) or smallest (youngest) person in your school class and sporting team.

I don't think this has anything actually related to the stars.

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