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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Community members in a Tennessee school district want to banish Satan from their children’s halls after the formation of a new club was announced.

The After School Satan Club (ASSC) wants to establish a branch in Chimneyrock elementary school in the Memphis-Shelby county schools (MSCS) district.

The ASSC is a federally recognized nonprofit organization and national after-school program with local chapters across the US. The club is associated with the Satanic Temple, though it claims it is secular and “promotes self-directed education by supporting the intellectual and creative interests of students”.

The Satanic Temple makes it clear its members do not actually worship the devil or believe in the existence of Satan or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

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[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 19 points 11 months ago

Satanists: We picked the name to bring attention to all the things you can get away with if you call yourself a religion

Conservative: I'm not listening! THEY WORSHIP THE DEVIL!

Satanists: See? It's working.

The "After-school Humanist Club" would not be having articles written about it.

[-] clearleaf@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago

Things you can get away with such as starting a club? That's never been against the rules.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

So why are people concerned that The Satanic Temple is starting a club? Are they concerned that they are indoctrinating children and teaching them about Satan? Because that's the After School Christian Club doing that.

[-] clearleaf@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago

Why are christians concerned about a group who's stated purpose is to be hostile to them? One reason jumps out at me.

[-] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago

Existing is hostile? What have they done besides start a club?

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Why are christians concerned about a group who's stated purpose is to be hostile to them?

That is not their stated purpose. You invented a purpose, then pretended they stated it.

The Satanic Temple makes it clear its members do not actually worship the devil or believe in the existence of Satan or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Of the two groups, a Christian Church/group is far more likely to have long conversations or services about how TST is bad and wrong, than TST is to have the same conversation about Christianity specifically.

This is Christians believing they are the One True Faith so anyone trying to get religion out of politics and policy must be targeting them specifically.

[-] clearleaf@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Why does they call themselves Satanists then?

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Do you not read other people's posts, or are you being completely disingenuous?

https://lemmy.ca/comment/5701962

[-] clearleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That links to this entire thread but I'm guessing it's supposed to be one of the comments that says Satanism has nothing to do with Satanism and the name was only picked to troll Christians. The end goal is to be sued so they can countersue and do damage to religious institutions. You've seen those comments right? If none of that is true why call themselves Satan worshippers specifically?

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Satanists: We picked the name to bring attention to all the things you can get away with if you call yourself a religion

Conservative: I’m not listening! THEY WORSHIP THE DEVIL!

Satanists: See? It’s working.

The “After-school Humanist Club” would not be having articles written about it.

So you're just completely disingenuous then.

Satanism has nothing to do with Satanism

You're trying to be tautological here:

The Satanic Temple makes it clear its members do not actually worship the devil or believe in the existence of Satan or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

Note that at no point do they call themselves "Satanists"

The end goal is to be sued so they can countersue and do damage to religious institutions

They have no interest in damaging religious institutions, near as I can tell they have no problem with religions doing whatever they want in their own places of worship. The end goal is stopping religious overreach and keeping religion from being forced into public spaces. Anywhere you think it's inappropriate for TST to be it is just as inappropriate for any other religion to be.

why call themselves Satan worshippers specifically?

They specifically don't:

The Satanic Temple makes it clear its members do not actually worship the devil or believe in the existence of Satan or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

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