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I get your perspective, and I think we are both trying to at least meet in the middle with how we are trying to explain our takes. By all means, I truly do think that minority groups should have more support and have the right to be heard and seen than the "societal norm". I guess I was just trying to see both sides and trying to determine a midpoint. The "All Lives Matter" movement easily falls in line with many other conservative spiels, and I'm trying to see the best in people in that what they mean isn't trying to side with the heavier right wing movements. Again, I'm not trying to belittle or minimize the trans rights movement or anything in which minority groups aren't being heard. I guess I just wish we lived in a society where everyone was treated as equal, and any hate groups were quieted to the best of our ability, slowly erasing those archaic viewpoints.
Like I started my first comment with, I'm not assuming that's what they meant with their "correction". I'm just pointing out the poor optics with a comment like that. And as I said to the other user, the whole slogan is "Trans rights are human rights". There's no need to "correct" it - it's already there.
Thank you for the extra layer of clarity. I'm consistently trying to make sure my words aren't being misconstrued, and I'm hoping that's how the other commenter feels, although I'm not going to put words in their mouth. I've faltered many a time in the past, hell even this morning in a discussion with a personal friend. I'm here to hopefully make the world a better place to live in, even if by the smallest choices in words and actions.
We absolutely tried that. The approach failed quickly and spectacularly in the past 15ish years, and even backfired. Frankly, whether you call it shunning, cancel culture, or people exercising their rights of association, it's not very effective in the Information Age.
I've personally pivoted to the much more exhausting, dogged method of dealing with them fairly, and simply taking the time to explain where and how they went wrong. This is very time consuming, but can work sometimes.
You're on the right path with that. Sometimes people with these mindsets just need to be spoken to, and that may (on may not) open their eyes to the ways they may have been inadvertently steeped in, whether that be from upbringing in a hatred filled household / community / etc., or a search for acceptance in those circles. I have someone at my workplace who is an outspoken anti-LGBTQ+, even going as far as plastering their laptop with heavily right wing anecdotes, and wearing very questionable shirts with horrible messages. But I'm here to eventually try and reason with them, and you're absolutely right it'll be an uphill battle, but one worth trying.