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"Re-unify" is dipshit-speak for invade, pillage and crush.. for anyone wondering.
Reunification of Germany was entirely nonviolent.
Yeah but they actually both wanted it.
Taiwan, judging from the enormous amounts of military material it has invested in, doesn't really want to be friends with china, let alone be conquered by it
The Kuomintang party supports one China
There is currently one China. It just goes by the name Taiwan. The CCP is as Chinese as my local takeout.
You must be one of those people that can't accept when civil wars are lost. I'm assuming you're also waiting for the South to rise again.
Yes Lost Causers are famously aware of world history. That must be it.
If you're aware of history, then how exactly is China not China? I must've missed a century somewhere
Read up on the resolution of the Chinese Civil War and the (nominal) government-in-exile that is Taiwan
At what point has enough time gone on before Taiwan is no longer a government in exile? Maybe 5-10 years, but that war ended in 1949. If you really think China and Taiwan should fight to death to determine who's the true ruler than I think that's pretty fucked up. Maybe you think the US should be a British colony again? Or maybe Ukraine should be part of Russia again? At this point the CCP has controlled China longer than the Kuomintang did, so I think that means they win.
I think Taiwan should wait out authoritarian communism's inevitable collapse and then come to the rescue with real solutions.
You're gonna be waiting a long time
That's fine. Democracy always wins in the end.
Yup, China will inevitably transition into a democratic socialist state, ceding the means of production over to the people. Not turning into a capitalist Republic that's controlled by wealthy oligarchs.
Sure, Jan.
Were the people saying they were going to reunify dipshits in that case?
And Russia is trying reunification with Ukraine. What's your point?
No, that's annexation, ya dingus
Right, you're saying that in hindsight.
When a tyrannous dictator preaches reunification as a descriptor when outlining their future plans the context changes a bit. Hope that helps :)
Sorry there was no meaning in your statement because I disagree.
I miss when opinions were just opinions.
Is that your opinion though? Feels like a straw man to me.
That's pure speculation on your part. Xi specifically stated the goal is peaceful reunification.
Well when all the direct quotes I read don't match the history I have to speculate on what XI really means.
He said he wants to reunify Taiwan, he didn't send me a PDF of his specific strategy.
You're speculating that it will be peaceful with the same logic.
I still remember what was happening in Taiwan just a few days before COVID hit. Do you?
Your answer: no
Well, what was the answer?
The answer was "no". It's right there to see ;]
The entire idea of reunification is that it is supported by the will of the people. I'm not speculating that it will be peaceful, I'm just pointing out what Xi said. You claiming that he's lying is speculation.
You claiming I'm speculating is also speculation. Take your semantic garbage and share it with someone who can respect your thoughts.
Your speculating that I'm speculating is also speculation! You are the one whomst engages in frantic semantic antics!
Don't be mad cuz you're wrong. Xi Jinping stated that he has plans to peacefully reunify Taiwan and China. How you want to interpret that is up to you, but the media wants you to interpret "peaceful reunification" as "violent invasion." If you want to believe that, that's on you.
I think China is more than capable of reunification of Taiwan peacefully and invading would be a real dumb idea. Also, according to their own news, only 48.9% of the Taiwanese people support national Independence. So there's definitely a possibility of China winning the people over.
https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2023/09/02/2003805648
If you believe that then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. In fact it's 2 for 1, but only if you buy by midnight!
Uhm, isn't a bridge the means of producing safe travel across a span? You should get the wall for owning means of production.
Well London Bridge is in Lake Havasu, AZ now. Why can't you get a bridge too?
Opportunity of a lifetime.
Oh no. I criticized Xi Jinping! I must hate all Chinese people.
Just let me know if you want that bridge.
Did they say how? Peace would be preferred, but the Taiwanese need to be willing to cooperate.
After what's happened in Hong Kong, why would Taiwan trust them?
Exactly my point
The Kuomintang party is willing to cooperate, while the Democratic party is not