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[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The advertisement literally tells you that they're doing it... The fuck are talking about it's made up? (https://www.cmglocalsolutions.com/blog/active-listening-an-overview as an example)

from the same 404 article months ago.

Dec 14, 2023 (https://www.404media.co/cmg-cox-media-actually-listening-to-phones-smartspeakers-for-ads-marketing/) is months ago? Shit man... What the fuck are you high on?

[-] Dr_Toofing@programming.dev 16 points 10 months ago

I still wouldn't believe it. Even the 404 article does not confirm anything and the ad company does not provide any details.

This whole thing feels like marketing, claiming something outrageous to get people talking about your company.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 5 points 10 months ago

That's entirely possible. But they did say it themselves on their own site. Look at the link I've posted in response to the other guy.

Even if they're just joking about it they deserve all the negative press they'll get.

[-] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

The company added that it does not "listen to any conversations or have access to anything beyond a third-party aggregated, anonymized and fully encrypted data set that can be used for ad placement" and "regret[s] any confusion."

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/12/no-a-marketing-firm-isnt-tapping-your-device-to-hear-private-conversations/

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com -3 points 10 months ago

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20231214235444/https://www.cmglocalsolutions.com/blog/active-listening-an-overview

Is Active Listening Legal?

We know what you’re thinking. Is this even legal? The short answer is: yes. It is legal for phones and devices to listen to you. When a new app download or update prompts consumers with a multi-page terms of use agreement somewhere in the fine print, Active Listening is often included.

So what were you saying?

[-] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Did you read the article? No, you did not.

According to the company this is all from regular 3rd party stuff. Being legal or not is beside the point when you are not actually doing something.

You're argument is based on what a marketing company put in their marketing.

Read the article, with clarifications from the company

ETA : if this were true I would either see it in my firewall logs, or it would blow through my data cap in a week. Surveillance capitalism is bullshit, this is just a grift.

[-] library_napper@monyet.cc 3 points 10 months ago

Seems funny how you keep saying from the company as if somehow asking s murderer with red bloody hands if they did it is somehow a creditable source

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 10 months ago

You’re argument is based on what a marketing company put in their marketing.

But your response is

with clarifications from the company

So what the company says isn't good enough... Except when it's in your favor? You realize that both statement are "from the company".

[-] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Fight as long as you want, when they were called out on it they backed off. The technical aspects of this are not trivial, nor is the amount of data needed as anyone who has had an Alexa or similar spyware in their house will tell you.

Like I said

if this were true I would either see it in my firewall logs, or it would blow through my data cap in a week.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 10 months ago

Like I said

if this were true I would either see it in my firewall logs, or it would blow through my data cap in a week.

Audio is literally trivial amounts of bandwidth. You wouldn't notice it at all. Using something like Opus, you could stream audio 24/7 and reach about 300MBs uploaded. Now do some basic trimming/word processing... That number can easily be less than 10MB a day.

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