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Afghan schoolgirls are finishing sixth grade in tears. Under Taliban rule, their education is over (apnews.com)

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[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago

I don't wish to disparage people's spiritual beliefs, but I'm sorry nobody should have to go around wearing anything like this, no matter what faith you come from. You should have the freedom to EXIST as yourself and show who you are. This niqab stuff is abuse.

[-] kemsat@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago

I do wish to disparage people’s spiritual beliefs, so I’ll just say that religion is the greatest evil ever created by humankind.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 32 points 10 months ago

Was just about to say. Fuck organized religion, fuck tolerating bigotry and intolerance in the name of acceptance and pluralism. Religion is something to be overcome not assimilated.

[-] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 5 points 10 months ago

IMO religion shouldn't exist in 21st Century.

We have machines going beyond solar system, scientific evidence that earth revolves around Sun , ability to interact with people on the other side of globe instantly and more.......

None of these things have religion ever predicted. And sometimes even being grossly wrong.

[-] Zaderade@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

So you're telling me that killing hundreds of thousands of people maybe even millions over the years in the name of some character which no one has any physical evidence exists and the people that follow along subconsciously know it's fake however they are too afraid of not having some fictional guiding light is bad????? You're wrong, Jesus saves!!!¡¡!¡!!! /s

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

What matters is that they can't get education and economic independence, who gives a shit about dress codes

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

To me forcing the girls to cover their faces is another shit thing done to them.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago

Yes, but it is a very minor shit thing. It is literally just aesthetic and all cultures have dress norms.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Forcing women to cover themselves up from head to toe is a bit more than just a "dress norm". Should be able to choose.

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[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

As someone with Muslim family, they will tell you that it is the women's choice. That they prefer to cover themselves from head to toe, even in blistering heat. The actual choice is to bite their tongue and wear it, or choose to deal with shame, humiliation, mockery, and often times much worse.

The rest of history has shown that women don't choose that kind of clothing when they have free will.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Precisely. Nobody should be forced to wear clothing in any faith that they don't want to.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That they prefer to cover themselves from head to toe, even in blistering heat.

Please don’t be ignorant

“The authors also concluded that the typical Bedouin costume has the same effects whether it is black or white. The black color does absorb more heat, but it does not reach the skin, so the color of the fabric is not important. The thickness of the fabric of these garments also favors better absorption of temperature, preventing it from reaching the skin.”

The Bedouin lesson: A scientific study proves robes are the best garment to wear in the desert heat

[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

While true that covering clothing can protect from the sun, it doesn't do anything indoors. Yet women still wear them indoors. Also, if that's the reason they are worn, why don't men cover themselves similarly?

Don't be ignorant of the fact that women are raped or killed for not wearing them in some places. Look up Mahsa Amini if you don't believe me.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Don’t be ignorant of the fact that women are raped or killed for not wearing them in some places.

Name the places. No one is getting raped or killed for not wearing them here in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

Look up Mahsa Amini if you don’t believe me.

I read the laws in Iran, and the fine for not wearing hijab ranges between 5000 - 500,000 Iranian riyal, or 0.10 - 10.14 USD, and 10 days - 2 months imprisonment. Everything I can gather outside of western sources is that it was an accident. And accidents with the police happen in the west too, the US is specially notorious for it.

Again, not all Muslim countries are Iran.

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[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

People's spiritual belief should be limited to themselves, the moment you enforce your religious rules on anyone else it's no longer OK and should be disparaged. Everyone should have the freedom to dress as a beekeeper, no one should have the obligation to do so.