[Duscussion] Post licening to kneecap threads putting ads next to our content. (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago by muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Ive seen that pixelfed and peertube have the ability to add a licence to content. I think this would be great for everyone so we can get ahead of threads and have collective bargaining power when they inevitable put our content between ads.

Heres the pixelfed duscyssion on the issue: https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed/issues/13 Here is mastadons discussion: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/20079

Im not sure if lemmy has a discussion yet i may create one later if one doesnt already exist.

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[-] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I don't care if its meta or some indy dev my content and my data belong to me and i should have the right to licence it how i feel fit..

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 30 points 10 months ago

I find it so ironic that people come to the Fediverse, an explicitly open protocol, and then get super possessive about "their data" and demand all kinds of controls over how it's used that even the big centralized walled gardens like Reddit don't provide.

You're posting publicly in a public forum that's designed to spread your comments far and wide to systems all over the world. I don't think you're going to have much luck at enforcing those rights.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

im having this same experience.

these people post publicly on public websites accessed by anonymous, public people federated to possibly thousands of servers and still some have this expectation of privacy/ownership.

to me the 'verse is little more than shouting into the void on a street corner. you dont control the sound once it leaves your mouth. youre done managing that content.

boggles my mind that the people in this thread are this butthurt about their cat pics next to a ad on the threads server. what a bunch of fucking babies.

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago

Just cos its open doesnt mean im giving it away for use in any purpose. I still own it im just allowing the rest if the fediverse to ses it and respond to it.

Sight is an explicitly open protocal anyone i meet can see my face doesnt mean they have the right to profit from the likeness of my face.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You're free to feel how you want to feel, but it's worth talking about how this might affect existing and future development for the fediverse

Large corporations have a knack for getting around (or straight up ignoring) restrictions that stop others. Just look at how they profit from existing licensed content, and pay a tiny fee when someone finally wins a legal case against them. I think the commenter above is also saying that it would suck if a change kills off smaller dev projects and makes it so only giant corporations can do it.

Not that this is the wrong idea, just that it's worth thinking about. On top of ads, other areas licensing may help with are privacy and use in training data for LLMs

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Im sure they will just totally ignore licencing but in the long term its going to give us a lot of collective bargaining power when it comes to corporations tryung to prifit from the fedivsere.

My ideal implementation would be each post has a licence decided by the poster and each instance has a default. In that case if u wanna post with a free for anyone to do anything go ahead its your choice.

The only privacy the fediverse provides is through anonymity i doubt licencing would effect that at all. But llm training it could force a lot more opensource into this world.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 10 months ago

we cant even get upvote/downvotes federating appropriately across the verse. but yeah, lets get collective license bargaining working.

hilarious

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Why give up. We came to the fediverse to escape the evils of large centralised tech companies why should we let them come take this too.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 10 months ago

ive already won my battle.

i control the flow of data into my server, now. licensing content is not a problem i have, nor do i care about what federating instances do with the content i publicly broadcast.

threads is not going to be some special exception to this.. not even out of spite