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Chrome thinks Firefox is unsafe!
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this post was submitted on 28 Dec 2023
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Remember when the meme was about Internet Explorer?
IE: What is my purpose?
Me: You download Chrome!
IE: Oh...my god!
Now Chrome isn't trusted. Even duck duck go is getting dubious. It seems there's almost nowhere to turn. Your data is their data, and if you dont like it, you can lump it.
What's up with ducky?
Nothing. Just a misunderstanding that blew up.
Context and source?
those also blew up, no traces left
https://lemmy.world/comment/6302824
Is it fair that I have to post a source when someone criticizing doesn't?
I'm just a passing stranger that just happens to have good knowledge about a significant misunderstanding that happened a year ago.
I don't walk around with 'sources' to all of the knowledge I've ever gained hanging out of my back pocket.
This is why "source?" posts are stupid and unreasonable, double so when in response to something where a source was never provided.
Now.. that all said, I do have a moment now that I didn't have previously to provide additional information.
This article... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31490515 ...Is a starting point, and more info can be found with your own search.
The basic gist was that it was claims DDG pass user data that could identify a user to Microsoft from searches, however this was never the case.
I have to allegiance with DDG.. they do an ok job. But I do indeed think it unfair they get continuously accused of wrongdoing, even still to this day as evidenced here.
This is just another case of bad, negative or incorrect information getting more publicity than the facts.
Someone did provide a source in response when asked instead of writing a diatribe, not that I disagree with you, but your complaint was unnecessary. Someone made a claim and was asked for more information, you made an opposite claim in response to that and were asked for more information.
The person that made the claim never responded. I don't know what you're talking about.
However I did respond, when I could.
So point stands, an accusation was made without evidence, and that accusation is still there, and now mine and one other post responds to that accusation... that again is without evidence.
My issues is, when I made that last post, why was I asked for a source, but no one asked the person making the claim against DDG for a source?
If the people asking me for a source had also asked the original claimant for a source I'd have no issue.
The practice of asking the counter claimant for a source and not the claimant is rife, unfair, unreasonable and needs to be called out.
If seems far too common to accept a say so when an accusation is made online.
If you're trying to debunk a myth or call someone's BS, then yes a source should be your opening statement. Is it fair? No. Is it necessary? Absolutely.
With all that said thank you for providing the source. A very well written one it was. I am going to debunk this myth now too, if and when I see it.
Nothing to see here, you say? Gotcha. 🙈
https://lemmy.world/comment/6302824
Thanks. Sorry you feel providing a source for claims is unfair, but it is what it is.
All I really needed was context, to be honest, in this particular case. I got that, so thanks again.
Asking for a source isn't unreasonable in a more important setting.
It's more an issue that no one asks for source for the original accusation.
It's the kind of action that lets baseless and faulty accusations get more traction than the truth.
I think they were just curious and should've probably said "What happened? And do you possibly have a link to more information?" I don't think they were questioning the claim, itself. That's just my interpretation.
Basically microsoft has a deal with them which makes them give aggregate data to microsoft. Which led to this.
P.S. : I am primarily still using ddg in case someone's thinking I'm an anti or something.
Ok, seems it’s time to seek next search engine.
I use both SearX and LibreX alongside DDG and that helps with 99% of my daily search online.
If I need to use Google for search, I do so in my tor browser.
Tried Kagi?
Eyy! You took the words out of my mouth! I don’t mind paying for a search engine if it’s good lol
It's the whole "if you're not paying for the product, you are the product." But I guess the downvoters are perfectly fine with having their data harvested for "free."
Not as easy of a choice when I'm struggling to get a job :/