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You ever heard of nuance? I'm beginning to think maybe you havent considering your wacky ass statements.
There is room to argue why a judgement may be Just/Unjust. The law upheld by people and people aren't exactly perfect. So there's room for debate.
"You disagree with me therefore you are the worst thing I can possibly thing of."
That's such a genuinely stupid remark to make.
I do care about criminal charges but shit ain't as black and white as you seem to think it is. Like you yourself said, these things are upheld by people and people are rarely ever perfect so I think there's plenty of room to argue why you think a ruling may or may not be perfectly just/unjust.
The legal system has it's flaws.
Go look at that link I sent in regards to the Valve vs Ironburg case.
Specifically this
The verdict was reversed.
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/cafc/20-1315/20-1315-2021-08-17.html Here's the full document.
See what I mean by decisions by people aren't perfect and should never be 100% ride or die?
Send me the source then. Like I said, I've looked and I've only found information about the geoblocking and how Valve and a few other companies colluded on that.
If you can point me to some information on valve getting done for exclusivity stuff, that would be great.
I didn't dispute this at all. Why are you reiterating on something I agreed with like I said anything different?
My honest reaction (I am extremely whelmed by this information that I have just heard for the first time)
There's hundreds of reports of just about every device out there not working. It's almost like you make something look really bad by being very vague with your statements.
It's also really easy to do that when you refuse to look at positive reports and also the fact that people are generally less likely to make reports like "My steam deck is working alright" which creates a negativity bias.
It's also really easy to do that when you completely ignore that Linux gaming is still in it's early stages and far from perfect. This isn't specifically a steam deck issue, this is just linux in general. It's only in the last few years that Linux even started to become viable for gaming. Not to mention the fact that linux gaming is largely banking on a compatibility layer because it's trying to run games built for a completely different operating system.
Do you actually know anything about linux/linux gaming at all? Everything you have spoken about regarding linux/linux gaming or the deck has been completely wrong. Again. either you have absolutely no idea what TF you're going on about, or you're lying through your ass.
You were wrong about the x64 thing. You were wrong about the CD thing. You were missing a lot of information when it came to running different OS's on the deck. In fact you were really vague about the majority of that as well. Never gave anything specific. Just said there were problems and never elaborated on them. Why?
Ok, now go do that to any major Github/Gitlab project and realise that they all have a myriad of tickets of varying severity. But don't forget to lose any of the nuance like you did here though.
It's not like Linux Gaming is still in it's VERY early stages and that the Steam Deck is primarily reliant on linux to do it's job. Or that linux gaming is an incredibly complex task to handle given all the low level work that is put into compatibility. The vast, vast majority of games that run on linux are written for a completely different operating system and 100% rely on compatibility layers that capture their windows and graphics API calls and translates them to their closest linux and/or vulkan calls while also having the condition of having as little overhead as possible. And that's only part of the problem.
Lets not forget though that you can make any situation look bad if you're very vague with your statements, provide no reasoning, ignore all nuance and you compare them to literally nothing and just look at it in a vacuum.
Yes, the deck has issues. But have you seen the amount of work that valve has put in to improve things? There is active work put into the entire project. A lot of that work also makes it's way to linux at large as well since a lot of the issues are just to do with the infancy of Linux gaming.
I mean there must be a baller ass reason why the deck is the most successful handheld on the market if it's got all these problems that are as catastrophic as you seem to imply. People that aren't the most hardcore shills generally have a hard time excusing things when their $300-$500 dollar hardware is shitting the bed as hard as you seem to want to imply.
People with working kits are far less likely to open tickets. "My device works well" isn't useful to anyone, is it? No fucking wonder all you're seeing is bug reports and tickets. You're looking at the place that is specifically for people to post bug reports and tickets.
I've been open about my attempts to search about these things. I've also taken every opportunity to ask you for help in finding this information. I've also not commented on the things I couldn't find any information about. I've backed up as many of my claims as I could. Wish the same could be said about you, who has been largely spouting objectively wrong information with no indication of research at all.
Oh come on the same news paper saying the lawyers are fixing the issue of evidence that should finalize the verdict. MAYBE READ.
You are just creating double standards as the truth of EU lawsuit is easy found but you don’t care. You looked into easy reporting of Valve case that defies them in better light. You didn’t cate about the fact or evidence. You only want yourself to believe Valve is the good guy.
This is a common misconception in trump supporters that only viewing small companies that benefit from good content.
You'll have to help me out here because I didn't quote a newspaper. So I'm not sure what point you're disputing here.
I'm going to assume it's the wolfire games lawsuit since you menioned the lack of a final verdict.
I'm just going to say the same thing as before. There's no final verdict. I'd rather wait and see the outcome rather than jump to conclusions. That means both "Valve bad" and "Valve good" opinions.
My man, I haven't disputed anything about the EU lawsuit. I've agreed on the Geoblocking issue and that I can't find anything on the exclusivity stuff. I can't comment on something I can't find. Are you just angry because I'm not blindly agreeing with you or something?
Except for the fact that I have gone looking for facts and evidence. Don't accuse me of something you're guilty of, just with the opposite goal of wanting to believe that Valve is evil.
If I wanted to believe that valve is the good guy I wouldn't have agreed with some of your points like
But for some reason you didn't accept this and tried to push it further as if I didn't already agree.
Fishing for a specific response? I've agreed that valve broke AU law. But because I don't have an extreme opinion on the matter, that's not good enough, apparently.
Don't give me the facts and evidence shit when you've literally been spreading blatent false information to have some excuse to say valve bad. Especially when I posted evidence where I could regarding your misinformation.
Funny how you dropped all that misinformation as well the second I called it out. Didn't try to defend it. Just conveniently act like it never happened.
You also tried the facts and evidence argument once, it didn't work.
Speaking of, just realised you conveniently forgot yet another claim. Remember how you claimed valve was abusive to their employees and I asked for proof? Haven't heard any mention of that from you since. Another case of misinformation?
I guess you didn't get the response you wanted, so you're trying again hoping for something different?
Bro back at it again with the "You don't share the exact same views as I do therefore you're the worst thing I can think of" nonsense.
Whatever happened to this, btw?
Conveniently dropping another point because you didn't get the response you wanted? Seems like a running theme.
I mean you've already rehashed about 3 points you've already tried, and failed. Why not go for another.
Not really, in the first reply I made I even stated that valve isn't an innocent company and they have very real issues. But at the same time, no company is the good guy. I just think that as far as problems every company has, valve is not as bad. Once again, yes, they have problems. But no, none of it is enough to have me sharing the same opinions as you.
That's how it be.
Sorry for not taking the things I'm told at face value and making an attempt at applying some critical thinking to come to my own conclusions. I just find that better than blindly agreeing to a random stranger that really, really wants me to affirm their own views.