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Copy, Acquire, Kill— How Meta could pull off the most extraordinary pivot in tech history (www.fromjason.xyz)

submitted 10 months ago by thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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What if Meta's hidden objective behind the Threads-to-Mastodon initiative is a play on app.net? And, what if threads.net is a measured step towards what could be the greatest pivot in all of tech?

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[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 13 points 10 months ago

Eh I'm pretty happy if they just stay over there haha

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

nah im not.

we cant expect things to get better if we dont help heal the people in a way we can.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

There's nothing wrong with the people who use it. It's their choice. I just don't want that content in my space.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 9 points 10 months ago

The only space that is truly "yours" in the Fediverse is the one concerning your feed and the data you create.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

It's my instance and the ones it federates with.

I can move instance or host my own if I don't agree with my current ones choices.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 5 points 10 months ago

Do you treat the people on the same instance as you as "taking your space"? Wouldn't it better to think of it as shared, which means that it is not really yours or anyone else's?

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago

No I'm talking about meta

[-] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 10 months ago

And I am talking about the people on the networks, whether it is Facebook or the instances themselves.

You want to say "I don't want Meta to come", but what about the people who are there?

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago

Depends on their content

[-] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 10 months ago

How are you going to filter it out?

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

Downvotes and blocking, as god intended.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 10 months ago

Can't do that if you are just defederating with them in the first place like you said you would.

Are you actually thinking through your answers or just turning knee-jerk reactions?

[-] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I dont mind, we are letting in a group that has a diffrent culture then ours. The fear is that if

we grow too fast
there is unreconcilable cultural diffrences
or a technological barrier for communication,

then the smaller side's culture will get clobbered.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 10 months ago

If we don't grow faster, we are always going to be irrelevant. To illustrate the point: Lemmy had a monstrous gift given by Reddit's management and completely failed to capitalize on it. Later on, when my fediverser project was signing up hundreds of people per day and the conversations started by the bots were used by organic users in niche communities, the reactionaries here decided to treat everything as spam, instead of seeing it as a hook to convert more people.

Fast forward a few weeks, and now Lemmy is back to being a place to nothing but meta-conversation about the Fediverse and a handful of people pretending they are not using Reddit anymore.

[-] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes theres also a lower bound, the upper bound can and should be as high as it should go but im afraid the biggest hurdle to having safe high growth is the possable culture clash. I fear (educated guess) it will happen and im hoping it wont.

Also, from your example, reddit is not exactly the same culture as lemmy and we had a "what habits do you wanna keep (effectively adopt) or drop from reddit" post, stuff like "/s". Id say overall few issues and should have and ive heard people encourage going as fast as possable but your saying our radicals pushed back.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 10 months ago

Reddit is not exactly the same culture as lemmy.

True but I'd argue that, once you start looking into the more niche subreddits, there is no single culture within Reddit itself, and these thousands of smaller niches are the really important ones and could've helped with the migration.

[-] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Wow, yes!

My personal niche, Sbubby was pseudo migrated many diffrent places, 2 discords, a lemmy page and someone is still running the subreddit.

There was a explosion and resession, there is no hope of finding either discord without their link and the reddit mass exodus was temporary were left fractured across 4 or 5 sites.

My other niche, on the reddit side is filled with horny people and salesman. Over here, theres a ~4 user/month community thats sweet and loving but has nobody.