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A federal appeals court on Tuesday ruled that Texas hospitals and doctors are not obligated to perform abortions under a longstanding national emergency-care law, dealing a blow to the White House's strategy to ensure access to the procedure after the Supreme Court overturned the constitutional right to abortion in 2022.

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[-] LarryTheMatador@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Its not that what youre saying is untrue. Its just that there are people actively killing women and youre shifting the blame to another group of people for not stopping them. Its more that a bad thing happened, but also another less bad thing happened. One is an overt attack on women but also some other folks may have been negligent.

DARVO- Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender

[-] Tosti@feddit.nl 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I reject that way of describing my comment.

The heinous attack was already ongoing, with the trigger laws, rhetoric and actions (protesting abortion clinics is vile).

And the only legal recourse and opposition to these actions (that the US law protects) is by changing these laws.

You can stomp your feet all you want but the mother-killing christian nutbags that planned this scenario knew this, played the game, and won the last battle. Now women are paying the price.

So yes, lawmakers absolutely are to blame for not codifying into law the protection of reproductive choice. That does in no way mean that they are to blame for the vile actions of the pro-mother killing evangelicals, they can carry their own torch.

I want to add that your immediate attack on people that mostly align with your desired outcome will most likely alienate your would be allies instead of getting their help... Or maybe that is your plan.

Edit: and to be clear the victims are the women not the lawmakers.

[-] LarryTheMatador@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

We're 99% in agreement here. I feel that when fascists do horrible shit responding with "How is this the fault of democrats" is the wrong tact. It shifts blame from fascists. But perhaps that is YOUR objective?

[-] Tosti@feddit.nl 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Jup so let's stop arguing. We agree that women's reproductive rights and right to bodily autonomy should be protected. I get your point, I just see that differently. There is value in also addressing the shortcomings of the defense that could have been used. Like with the military, analysis of failed defense learns lessons for future actions. But this definately does not change the goals, nor who the opposition is.

[-] Aurix@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I didn't read this as an attack, but criticism. On a state level there should be enough institutions, constitutions and other means to protect this type of laws against vile actors from within.

[-] Tosti@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago

The states are the baddies in these cases unfortunately.

[-] optissima@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 11 months ago

"The States" have been baddies since before the uniting.

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