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@veganpizza69
Also, in general, eating no or less meat and dairy can be a healthier diet https://gimletmedia.com/shows/science-vs/6nh87mb/vegans-are-they-right
But cheese is so good…
I’ve already swapped to oat milk, but cheese…
I used to love cheese and ate a lot of it but after foregoing for a while now I find it revolting. One thing I feel that doesn't get talked about a lot among vegans is that after you break out of the habit of eating something you realise it was never that important.
@flames5123
FYI, if they can produce plant based burgers that have the texture & tastes like beef, then l see no reason why they can't do the same with a plant based cheese.
Food is chemicals (chemistry)
They haven't succeeded yet. No good fake cheese, no good fake yoghurt, no good fake bacon
We haven't even done the much simpler chemistry of replicating photosynthesis (sunlight and CO2 to sugar)
@psud
Well then, if they can't make plant based cheese that tastes exactly like dairy cheese we're doomed (FFS)
Don't believe the losers that say science is impossible
https://impossiblefoods.com/products/burger
"Photosynthesis"
Plants have evolved to do that already! That's also why it's far better for the environment to eat plant & fungi based diets. Less energy (fewer resources) is lost (used) by eating the plants inc. the milks that are made from plants. Compared to eating the animals that eat the plants
Eggs and parmigiano reggiano were the last thing I gave up before changing. It took the environment + health + morality arguments to cement it for me.
@flames5123
I hear you!
Whilst I've tried some plant based cheese they haven't been comparably to dairy cheese.
I live with few people that, whilst they generally eat a 90% vegan diet, drink dairy milk & eat cheese (so kept in the fridge)
The only food l used to eat that l sometimes 'crave' is cheese & fried eggs. So yea, l still occasionally eat a vegy & cheese pizza & have the odd fried egg
I'm not religious about my diet. But, I don't miss meat at all - the alternatives are satisfying
I wouldn't eat anything invented in the last hundred years. Who knows whether oat milk is safe?
I'm allergic to cow dairy, I wouldn't touch plant "milk"
Well, good news for you! Soy milk dates all the way back to 1300’s and almond milk to the 1700’s! However, almond milk is awful for environmental reasons, such as too much land and water use. But oat milk is just water and enzymes. We have enzymes in our body and have utilized them in cooking for centuries (like pineapple tenderizing meat).
But also, you’re using things invented in the last hundred years. You’ve been vaccinated for at least a few things. You’re using the internet. You’ve even eaten sliced bread (1928). Stop being obtuse with the whole “last hundred years” crap.