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The organic stuff itself, maybe. But there's a lot of carbon involved in driving tractors and transport. All of which is vastly reduced by eating 1 plant instead of growing 10 plants to grow one steak.
Don't the largest most polluting machines work on the plant farms?
I'm talking grass fed animals. I agree with you that we shouldn't have grain fed cattle
Animals it's light trucks and tractors up feed the animals during winter or drought, then transport to market, eventually to the consumer.
Plants it's fertilising machines, crop dusting planes, massive harvesting machines then usually through factories eventually to the consumer. If you eat while foods only and nothing manufactured then it's massive harvesting machines then to market to the consumer
Yes. That's what I am referring to. Where are those studies?
I'm less concerned about tractors and transport, those are a matter of replacing with green alternatives.
The truth seems to be that the best choice is somewhere in the middle. Less meat, more vegetables. Attempts to zero out meat requires higher carbon input else where.
But if you're a vegetarian that mostly eats at restaurants, you've cancel out the benefits against someone who eats meat once a day, from a local farmer and prepares all their meals at home.
They're really pretty easy to find. But it's just basic physics. A cow doesn't eat to turn food into meat, it eats to stay alive. The business of living (and not in the least, that means farting lots of methane) consumes 90% of the food, only 10% is turned into meat. This varies a lot of course, depending on species and feeding regime.
The cow is part of the existing carbon cycle. The cow is not digging up buried carbon and releasing it. That's mostly us.
The focus needs to be on carbon input from these buried sources. Plants also release methane but for emotional reasons this is ok because pro-vegans accept this is coming from the existing carbon cycle. The methane from the cows is no different.
Vegans love this topic because it makes them feel they are helping more than others. It's all emotion. All of it. This comment section is oozing with this raw emotion.
Funny how your comment is 100% emotional and I am forced to conclude you didn't read the article, which cites peer reviewed studies. 😢
Fuck this is tiring.
These aren't new studies.
I've already read them and many more.
The source site has a stated goal of proving factory farming is bad for the environment. It has an agenda that nearly lines up with every in these comments who is downvoting me.
This is not science.
Me pointing out the emotions in others response is not an emotional reaction, it's an observation.
This fact that you are confused by this tells me how emotionally invested you are in this topic.
This simply isn't how science works.
This is how religious devotion operates.
you're doing great, sweetie
i was being sincere. i think you're doing really well here.
Or: All my emotions are science, by Mr. Rational himself. Its actually hilarious how much time you are willing to spend showing that your emotional responses are actually scientific with more emotional rhetoric and how little time you are willing to put into showing a single way that a single point in the article is wrong using science that shows otherwise. "I don't like the rhetorical slant of the article," does literally nothing to disprove the science they useto support their conclusions. But you are clearly the one single person on this planet that doesn't let their emotions guide what they believe. Ok.