~~It’s worth noting that due to brilliant design decisions, the only way to put different tires on it is to replace the whole wheel.~~ edit: apparently this part was not correct, my apologies for the misinformation
Nope. The tyres it comes with are custom, but you can fit any tyre you want so long as it's the right size (which does admittedly limit your options somewhat). The rims aren't a custom size either (although, the ones that come from the factory obviously are a custom design, but like the tyres, it's not hard to find a replacement). And there is nothing particularly special about either of them. Plenty of options out there for both. Plenty of reasons to hate this vehicle, the two issues you listed are not reasons to do so as they are problems that don't actually exist.
Edit: you may be getting confused as they got a patent early last year for their wheel covers (which I think is valid as they have aero shit involved with em). But they literally just clip on and off.
Interesting, I stand corrected. This is common misunderstanding then, probably based off what you mention in that edit, as comment threads are filled with it being discussed.
edit: after some search, it may also be due to what looks like third party replacement rim and tires packages being available. Maybe it’s been assumed the replacement rims were necessary to use other tires.
I think the rabid anti ev and anti musk hatred is what's driving it more than any misunderstanding. Like I said, many reasons to hate this vehicle, but a lot of the "conversations" I see about this vehicle (and EVs in general) are complete and utter tripe.
Because most of the time you don’t see packages of them, they’re usually separate. The majority of people aren’t bothering to get new rims unless they need them, like when the old ones are damaged from rolling on a flat or something. But when companies are selling “special” aftermarket cybertruck specific replacement rim and tire packages, it makes it sound like the rims are a necessary component, when you could just apparently just use the existing rims with the new tires.
Pretty sure you're not a "car person" cos those packages abound for many other vehicles on the road. Which is further reinforced by me plugging in "wheel and tyre package" into ye Olde google and getting a shitload of results for, surprise surprise, wheel and tyre packages for a variety of cars. From your daily run abouts, to 4x4s, to suvs, to sports cars. Here's one site that offers over 20,000 wheel and tyre packages.. So, yeah, your assumptions are woefully wrong.
Well, that’s kind of what I mean, most people who are confused and commenting about this for cybertruck aren’t necessarily car enthusiasts, and wouldn’t normally be looking where you would see that. The average person isn’t shopping online for tires anyway, they’re going to the local shop to pick some and have them put on. At least here if you go to the average shop to pick replacement tires, they’re separate from the rims. With cybertruck the same observers would have to go online, see all these packages and may assume it’s necessary. It’s just a possibility. It just seems like too specific a criticism and misconception for it to purely be just people hating on it. The notion had to come from somewhere.
Yeah, so maybe "most people" should shut the fuck up and not spew nonsense about a topic they know literally nothing about? And what kind of arse backwards country do you live in? Every tyre store I've been in in Australia has had a number of tyre and wheel packages on offer. I literally had a chat with my tyre guy the last time I got tyres as they had a package on sale for 70% off (off topic, but it was the last one they had and it had sat for over 6mths). This isn't a specialist tyre place that only specialises in these packages either. Hell, here's the wheel and tyre packages page for Australia's biggest tyre retailer. These packages are literally on the showroom floor when you walk in. You'd have to be so dumb that you should be committed if you walked in these stores and missed them.
I cannot argue with your first point, but it is what it is.
Regarding the rest, you’re surprised different countries or locales may have differences? Ok.
Where I live specifically, on this small island, space is at a premium. Most places don’t have enough room for such displays. You go into a small reception area and there are a couple of example tires out front. There may be a couple example rims of different sizes, or they may all be in back. You give the person your current wheel size and they bring out a couple of tire options in your price range. No one offers to sell you rims, because the average person here spends enough money on rent and basics as it is that no one’s going to be sold rims unless they ask for them.
You’d have to be psychic to walk into one of these places and know what all is available or whether packages are sold.
Hang the fuck on. You somehow think that your experience living on a "small island" speaks for "the average person"? Get to fuck. I guarantee your islands population isn't even large enough to be a rounding error on the global scale. My attitude is fine considering I didn't realise I was talking to an actual moron.
But this whole thread illustrates a problem the internet has as a whole, fuckwits like you don't even bother to research anything. You read something in discussions and chose to take it as gospel without bothering to check if it had a shred of truth to it? And then doubled down on it as if your tiny worldview somehow was what everyone experiences? There is no difference between you doing that and those who treat Fox News as the holy truth. I may have "attitude" now, but it's cos I have to occasionally deal with people like you, and I don't suffer fools gladly.
Naw, did I offend the idiots feelings? You came at me first, mate, if you can't handle the heat, don't even step into the kitchen...
Also, if you were truly offended, you wouldn't have made this latest comment at all. But you just haaaaaaad to tell the world how much more "better" you are. Jog on.
So? I never claimed it wasn't. Maybe me being able to point out someone is being an arsehole is cos I'm one. Doesn't change the fact that they're still an arsehole.
I didn’t come at you first, it was a mostly civil exchange discussing where the confusion in the matter could be coming from until you said
Yeah, so maybe "most people" should shut the fuck up and not spew nonsense about a topic they know literally nothing about? And what kind of arse backwards country do you live in?
and
You'd have to be so dumb that you should be committed if you walked in these stores and missed them.
So, again, fuck off with your attitude. I’m blocking you now.
Which part of that was directed at you? I didn't lump you in the "most people" category. You did that. I also didn't disparage you with the second sentence. Nor with the third. It's all talking about people and your country in general. None of it singles you out. I can understand how an idiot might think that, but that doesn't mean it makes it the case. Now, I did go you in my next comment, I'll admit that. But that was only in reply to you. Like I said before, jog on you sanctimonious prick.
Never mind, I just looked at your profile and have seen you're American. I take back what I said about you being an idiot, for the average American that goes online, you're basically Einstein...
We don't have the reputation Americans have. Especially online. We may be just as bad, which is a matter of personal opinion, but we sure as shit don't prove it online so often and readily as those yanks do.
I could say the same to you. At least I contributed to the conversation. What have you done besides try and show off how small your metaphorical dick is?
You didn’t contribute shit but shit. Your continued angry and rude anecdotal responses to the guy WHO ADMITTED HE WAS WRONG are not contributing to anything constructive so you can fuck right off with that response.
I didn't accuse them of trying to get the last word in. I love it when people do that, means I can just keep replying and frustrated them. I accused them of not being as truly offended as they claimed to be. If they were, they just would've walked away.
And you tried to insult my intelligence before, but then think that calling an Australian a cunt is insulting? Glasshouses indeed... I know what you meant though, and so what? I might be a cunt, but that doesn't change shit. They were wrong, then said more wrong stuff. I coulda been nicer about it all, and like you said, that may make me a cunt. But at least I have the decency to accept people for who they are and not try to change them, unlike you you sanctimonious prick...
Isn't replacing the wheel what you do on a normal car too? I've always found the use of the phrase "change the tyre" on cars weird, because it's not like you actually take off just the tyre and put a new one on, like with a bike. Speaking of which, do car tyres have inner tubes inside them?
It is like a bike :). The wheel is the metal/plastic part in the middle. The tyre is the outer rubber part. They will take the wheel of the car to replace the tyre but unless the wheel is also damaged you will get the same one back. Regarding the inner tube some have a tube and some don't same for bikes actually.
Oh okay. So when getting a new tyre to replace an old one, that's the same as a bike, then?
But I think it's still probably right to say that "wheel" would be more accurate when referring to your "spare tyre", wouldn't it? And probably also when talking about rotating tyres?
Correct the spare tyre is the wheel+tyre as you can't just swap the tyre on your own. And yeah rotating is just moving wheel+tyre to a new position on the car so the tyre gets a different wear pattern which helps it last longer.
How does that work?
~~Apparently they have custom wheels and custom tires so you can’t just put a different tire on, you need to switch out the rims too.~~
edit: I stand corrected, today I have spread misinformation, my apologies
Nope. The tyres it comes with are custom, but you can fit any tyre you want so long as it's the right size (which does admittedly limit your options somewhat). The rims aren't a custom size either (although, the ones that come from the factory obviously are a custom design, but like the tyres, it's not hard to find a replacement). And there is nothing particularly special about either of them. Plenty of options out there for both. Plenty of reasons to hate this vehicle, the two issues you listed are not reasons to do so as they are problems that don't actually exist.
Edit: you may be getting confused as they got a patent early last year for their wheel covers (which I think is valid as they have aero shit involved with em). But they literally just clip on and off.
Interesting, I stand corrected. This is common misunderstanding then, probably based off what you mention in that edit, as comment threads are filled with it being discussed.
edit: after some search, it may also be due to what looks like third party replacement rim and tires packages being available. Maybe it’s been assumed the replacement rims were necessary to use other tires.
I think the rabid anti ev and anti musk hatred is what's driving it more than any misunderstanding. Like I said, many reasons to hate this vehicle, but a lot of the "conversations" I see about this vehicle (and EVs in general) are complete and utter tripe.
I made an edit that may be relevant too. It would make sense.
I don't see how your edit is relevant given that pretty much every car on the road has third party rims and tyres and this isn't an issue for them.
Because most of the time you don’t see packages of them, they’re usually separate. The majority of people aren’t bothering to get new rims unless they need them, like when the old ones are damaged from rolling on a flat or something. But when companies are selling “special” aftermarket cybertruck specific replacement rim and tire packages, it makes it sound like the rims are a necessary component, when you could just apparently just use the existing rims with the new tires.
Pretty sure you're not a "car person" cos those packages abound for many other vehicles on the road. Which is further reinforced by me plugging in "wheel and tyre package" into ye Olde google and getting a shitload of results for, surprise surprise, wheel and tyre packages for a variety of cars. From your daily run abouts, to 4x4s, to suvs, to sports cars. Here's one site that offers over 20,000 wheel and tyre packages.. So, yeah, your assumptions are woefully wrong.
Well, that’s kind of what I mean, most people who are confused and commenting about this for cybertruck aren’t necessarily car enthusiasts, and wouldn’t normally be looking where you would see that. The average person isn’t shopping online for tires anyway, they’re going to the local shop to pick some and have them put on. At least here if you go to the average shop to pick replacement tires, they’re separate from the rims. With cybertruck the same observers would have to go online, see all these packages and may assume it’s necessary. It’s just a possibility. It just seems like too specific a criticism and misconception for it to purely be just people hating on it. The notion had to come from somewhere.
Yeah, so maybe "most people" should shut the fuck up and not spew nonsense about a topic they know literally nothing about? And what kind of arse backwards country do you live in? Every tyre store I've been in in Australia has had a number of tyre and wheel packages on offer. I literally had a chat with my tyre guy the last time I got tyres as they had a package on sale for 70% off (off topic, but it was the last one they had and it had sat for over 6mths). This isn't a specialist tyre place that only specialises in these packages either. Hell, here's the wheel and tyre packages page for Australia's biggest tyre retailer. These packages are literally on the showroom floor when you walk in. You'd have to be so dumb that you should be committed if you walked in these stores and missed them.
I cannot argue with your first point, but it is what it is.
Regarding the rest, you’re surprised different countries or locales may have differences? Ok.
Where I live specifically, on this small island, space is at a premium. Most places don’t have enough room for such displays. You go into a small reception area and there are a couple of example tires out front. There may be a couple example rims of different sizes, or they may all be in back. You give the person your current wheel size and they bring out a couple of tire options in your price range. No one offers to sell you rims, because the average person here spends enough money on rent and basics as it is that no one’s going to be sold rims unless they ask for them.
You’d have to be psychic to walk into one of these places and know what all is available or whether packages are sold.
So fuck off with your attitude.
Hang the fuck on. You somehow think that your experience living on a "small island" speaks for "the average person"? Get to fuck. I guarantee your islands population isn't even large enough to be a rounding error on the global scale. My attitude is fine considering I didn't realise I was talking to an actual moron.
But this whole thread illustrates a problem the internet has as a whole, fuckwits like you don't even bother to research anything. You read something in discussions and chose to take it as gospel without bothering to check if it had a shred of truth to it? And then doubled down on it as if your tiny worldview somehow was what everyone experiences? There is no difference between you doing that and those who treat Fox News as the holy truth. I may have "attitude" now, but it's cos I have to occasionally deal with people like you, and I don't suffer fools gladly.
I stopped reading at the first sentence, it’s not worth my time. I conceded the original point and acknowledged I was incorrect. Bye.
Naw, did I offend the idiots feelings? You came at me first, mate, if you can't handle the heat, don't even step into the kitchen...
Also, if you were truly offended, you wouldn't have made this latest comment at all. But you just haaaaaaad to tell the world how much more "better" you are. Jog on.
You being a piece of shit on the internet makes it just as shitty as whatever the fuck you’re complaining about.
Fix your attitude you miserable oxygen thief.
So? I never claimed it wasn't. Maybe me being able to point out someone is being an arsehole is cos I'm one. Doesn't change the fact that they're still an arsehole.
I didn’t come at you first, it was a mostly civil exchange discussing where the confusion in the matter could be coming from until you said
and
So, again, fuck off with your attitude. I’m blocking you now.
Which part of that was directed at you? I didn't lump you in the "most people" category. You did that. I also didn't disparage you with the second sentence. Nor with the third. It's all talking about people and your country in general. None of it singles you out. I can understand how an idiot might think that, but that doesn't mean it makes it the case. Now, I did go you in my next comment, I'll admit that. But that was only in reply to you. Like I said before, jog on you sanctimonious prick.
Never mind, I just looked at your profile and have seen you're American. I take back what I said about you being an idiot, for the average American that goes online, you're basically Einstein...
Just so you’re aware, the world doesn’t look at Australian people as bastions of intelligence either.
Glass houses and all that.
We don't have the reputation Americans have. Especially online. We may be just as bad, which is a matter of personal opinion, but we sure as shit don't prove it online so often and readily as those yanks do.
Why are you such an angry prick? Did this guy stab your mother or something?
Go the fuck outside.
I could say the same to you. At least I contributed to the conversation. What have you done besides try and show off how small your metaphorical dick is?
You didn’t contribute shit but shit. Your continued angry and rude anecdotal responses to the guy WHO ADMITTED HE WAS WRONG are not contributing to anything constructive so you can fuck right off with that response.
Grow up and be a better steward of humanity.
Yeah, they admitted they were wrong, then they doubled down and plowed right on ahead with being wrong. Which is still more than you've contributed.
Ah okay so you’re just a garbage human who is only interested in “being right” or “getting the last word in”, like you accused the other fella of.
Anyways, you’re a cunt and I don’t care to have pieces of shit like you in my life so I’m gonna do both of us a favour and block your stupid ass.
I didn't accuse them of trying to get the last word in. I love it when people do that, means I can just keep replying and frustrated them. I accused them of not being as truly offended as they claimed to be. If they were, they just would've walked away.
And you tried to insult my intelligence before, but then think that calling an Australian a cunt is insulting? Glasshouses indeed... I know what you meant though, and so what? I might be a cunt, but that doesn't change shit. They were wrong, then said more wrong stuff. I coulda been nicer about it all, and like you said, that may make me a cunt. But at least I have the decency to accept people for who they are and not try to change them, unlike you you sanctimonious prick...
Isn't vendor lock-in a wonderful thing...
Isn't replacing the wheel what you do on a normal car too? I've always found the use of the phrase "change the tyre" on cars weird, because it's not like you actually take off just the tyre and put a new one on, like with a bike. Speaking of which, do car tyres have inner tubes inside them?
It is like a bike :). The wheel is the metal/plastic part in the middle. The tyre is the outer rubber part. They will take the wheel of the car to replace the tyre but unless the wheel is also damaged you will get the same one back. Regarding the inner tube some have a tube and some don't same for bikes actually.
Oh okay. So when getting a new tyre to replace an old one, that's the same as a bike, then?
But I think it's still probably right to say that "wheel" would be more accurate when referring to your "spare tyre", wouldn't it? And probably also when talking about rotating tyres?
Yeah the rubber part gets replaced.
Correct the spare tyre is the wheel+tyre as you can't just swap the tyre on your own. And yeah rotating is just moving wheel+tyre to a new position on the car so the tyre gets a different wear pattern which helps it last longer.