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Elon Musk's drug use causing turmoil for Tesla, SpaceX execs: WSJ
(finance.yahoo.com)
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But too late, it's been mentioned in a headline so now everyone just believes it. Obviously it's true because it's something bad about Elon Musk.
Or are anti-drug laws bad right now too? I've lost track which is more important to believe bad things about.
So, the guy smoked weed on camera and you're denying he's used drugs? He's also talked openly about his ketamine prescription, which you absolutely should know he got a prescription for AFTER he certainly tested positive for it. You don't have to simp this hard. He's already proud of you, and I bet your dad is too.
I'm not denying anything. I'm pointing out that everybody's leaping to a conclusion because it suits the "Musk bad!" mob narrative without even bothering to read the article where some doubt is cast on it.
Bill Clinton smoked weed once. Does that mean he's stoned right now?
And here's the other common symptom of the "Musk bad!" mob mentality, the assumption that anyone who says anything not bad must be in some kind of "Musk good!" group.
Or maybe we're arriving at a conclusion based on existing, known evidence and you're desperate to simp for the guy.
See, this is the kind of shitty argument we expect from people that worship Musk. Nobody said musk is high RIGHT NOW. Do you think Clinton stopped smoking weed after that one time? Like, how dumb can a person be?
No, I called you a simp. Specifically a simp with daddy issues.
Lemmy is a worse shit hole echo chamber than reddit and I don't like musk and your assessment is spot on.
Indeed. I don't like Musk either, but there are plenty of real reasons to not like him. No need to make up all kinds of wild nonsense and immediately believe every negative thing people say about him simply because it's negative.
Do you understand exactly how easy a drug test is to beat unless you have a fucking junk scanner?
Dude has lied about way more important shit than that, so why should anybody believe him?
He smoked pot live on camera. If he were actually getting random drug tests he would have failed instantly and had his clearance revoked. Because you can tell a clearance investigator that you murder hookers on the weekend after raw dogging them and nobody cares. But if you have ever even LOOKED AT the devil's lettuce, you are a security threat.
The reality is that "random drug testing" for clearance purposes mostly boils down to if you piss off someone AND don't have a supervisor who will tell their supervisors that you can't come to the piss truck today because you are super awesome and that this is hurting national security.
I would expect that they started doing the drug tests because he smoked pot live on camera. I recall there was rather a kerfuffle about it at the time.
Anyone with a clearance (which would be required if you were the money mark for a rocket company because you were pissy that russia wouldn't sell you an ICBM...) is eligible for random drug tests. That technically applies to random bureaucrats who do data entry. The Emerald Apartheid is not special in that regard.
Different orgs have different criteria for what triggers a "random drug test". None are actually random and it is always funny when someone figures out what kind of paperwork puts your name in the pool to go piss in front of somebody.
And, once you make it past the peon stage (or are someone's kid), you have enough connections that you will never take one again.
To put it in context: I have a friend who gets "randomly selected" any time he lets one of his managers know he had a layover in DEN on a trip. And I know people who openly smoke "really skunky tobacco" on their lunch break who will never get called in.
I've worked in lots of places with random drug testing that were full of drug users. For almost everything but weed, drugs are out of your system within hours or days. Being subject to random testing doesn't mean he isn't using drugs.
I mean... he's already publicly admitted abusing prescription drugs. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/872260000491593728
He has a prescription for ket, but people never abuse their prescriptions.
And no this isn't about being anti drug it's the harm and potential for more harm that it is causing others. That's when personal freedoms generally go out the window. Liberals are pretty consistent with that despite you trying to pretend it's arbitrary.
It also serves as a potential explanation for his truly insane behavior
It would not surprise me at all to find out that Elon Musk paid to develop a brain-dead clone of himself, simply to provide samples for drug tests while he smokes up all the freaking time