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[-] donuts@kbin.social 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't really get it, what's even to "hate" about Biden in the first place?

People trash on him for ending the war in Afghanistan, because I guess we're all supposed to act surprised that the Taliban just walked right back in and took power even though that's what every expert was saying was going to happen even before the war started. Last time I checked, we all wanted the forever wars in Iraq and Afganistan to end.

Republicans trash him for giving arms and spending money on Ukraine, even though they're the victim of Russian imperialist aggression.

People trashed on him for not calling for a ceasefire on Hamas, until he did call for it and it happened, after which people trashed on him because the war just started back up because neither Hamas nor Netenyahu were willing or able to back off. Biden didn't start the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, nor was he the first or only US President to arm Israel (who are one of our only allies in the area), nor did he move the pieces that initiated this round of post-Oct 7th fighting, so it's frankly the world's biggest stretch to blame him for it.

And so now people want to trash on him for bombing the Houtis, who are terrorists who have been openly pirating ships on key global trade routes, and who have been warned multiple times that they would face retaliation if there were to continue doing it. We basically told these Houti morons "fuck around and find out" and now they're finding out so we all have to pretend to have bleeding hearts for him.

"Hating" Biden while the very real specter of Trump looms over the 2024 election is just nonsense to me.

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 13 points 10 months ago

This is such a breath of fresh air. Thank you.

[-] aew360@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

He’s unironically my favorite President in my lifetime. History will remember him fondly no matter how hard far right fascists and tankies try to alter the truth

[-] deleted@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I’m stunned how media can swings population opinion in a snap of a finger.

The same US administration brainwashed many people to believe Saudi Arabia is bad because they were at war with Houthis.

Houthis are a tool similar to Hamas and Hezbollah in Lebanon. They can be controlled remotely.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Saudi Arabia is "bad" all on their own, no propaganda needed, just go on the topics they themselves report

[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I feel that quite a few people are tired, mostly. So they project those negative feelings, with a sprinkle of zero research, and a dollop of regurgitation, and point it all at whomever happens to be at the highest point of whatever they want to blame. In this case: Biden. Bob Ross could be in the seat and things could be absolutely amazing and people would still find something. It's just the way it is, heightened by the sheer number of folks who are at various levels of angry and confused.

None of it is right, of course. Nor does it provide an excuse for behavior. It is, at least, one reason of many that I'm way to lazy to tap out and run through with two fingers. The best the rest of us can do is continue to be reasonable and to work together, while fighting against foolish perspectives and holier-than-thou accusations and finger pointing lightly disguised as shallow arguments.

As for me: I'm on the side of "more likely to make things better." and we know why that happens to be the case. One step at a time. Let's just make sure to not fall off and continue working locally and at State level.

[-] febra@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Only thing I hate him for is his unwillingness to actually end the conflict between Israel and Hamas. He keeps delivering weapons to Israel to continue its apartheid policies. I couldn’t care less about whatever virtue signalling he does in front of the camera as long as he actively supports Israel’s gruesome attacks.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

People trashed on him for not calling for a ceasefire on Hamas, until he did call for it and it happened,

When did he call for a ceasefire? Not a temporary truce, a ceasefire. Also people hate him because he keeps funding Israel.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Also people hate him because he keeps funding Israel.

That's not a Biden problem which would be solved by voting for Trump.

That's US foreign policy problem.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's not something Trump would solve, yeah, but it's very much a Biden problem. He's going so far as to bypass Congress to do it. Past presidents actually used their influence over Israel to do something.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

but it's very much a Biden problem.

Then you have no idea how much support there is for Israel, regardless of party affiliation.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social -2 points 10 months ago

There's a lot of bipartisan support for Israel, but Biden is going above and beyond that. Like I said, there are past examples of presidents acting to reign in Israel's rampages.

[-] PrettyLights@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

He "ended" Afghanistan with seemingly no plan and just abandoned large amounts of weapons and supplies that are now unaccounted for in a volatile region.

I think the public would have been okay with a longer timeframe if they had made efforts to render more things inert or ship them back. It may not be the most cost effective compared to replacement, but its better than just shoving more weapons into the region with no accountability.

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