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i have a feeling biden will finally get this done right before the election. hopefully this will mobilize the young enough to combat the hoards of jug hooters
My guess is he promises to get it done next term tho
And then doesn't do it.
The blame will depend on whether Republicans have control of a house of Congress. If they refuse to put it through the Republican-controlled Senate then it tracks that a Democratic presidential candidate would promise it but be unable to deliver due to the opposing party.
Blame him if he gets complete control and doesn't do it, blame the other party if they stop him from doing it.
I'm not going to give him credit for something he hasn't accomplished.
But when we complain that we still can't buy pot in our state we'll get 4 replies 10 paragraphs long with citations all smugly telling us that we don't understand, he actually got "the most work done towards legalizing pot then any president since FDR"
This is the politician way.
LOL “jug hooters”… I love it!
What more does Biden need to do? They already directed HHS to consider reclassifying it from schedule I to III and HHS made their recommendation to the DEA who classifies the drugs. I thought it was up to the DEA now?
He said we'd look into it, so it's accomplished!
The executive branch is a bureaucracy that has to follow procedures. The president can direct the agency to start these processes, and that's what he done. The HHS has done the necessary work to show that cannabis is deserving of a lower schedule according to the Controlled Substances Act. It is now up to the DEA to review that data and reschedule it accordingly. This is the process stipulated by the law, and the executive branch must adhere to it. If they don't, it will be undone in the courts.
The alternative route would be for Congress to pass a new law to specifically legalize cannabis, but they do not have the numbers, so the Biden administration has to follow the process outlined in the existing laws. He's done what he is legally able to do, and it's more than any of his predecessors have. It may be slow, but it's pretty much a fast as the law allows.
Unless we're selling weapons for genocide.
That's great. Until it's actually happened, it's not an accomplishment. I'm not sure how centrists keep failing to understand this. You don't get credit for something that hasn't happened. Cannabis is still illegal federally. If that changes due to Biden's efforts, I'll happily give him credit.
But it hasn't happened yet. This isn't the Silmarillion. You don't get credit for trying.
Are you unable to answer the question or do you not have an answer? Is that why you resorted to snark?
Not expect praise for something that hasn't happened?
Centrists demand credit for non-accomplishments because they prefer to accomplish nothing.
Where did I demand Biden be praised?
When did I demand Biden get credit?
Often on social media the same people who decry one side behaving like authoritarian dictators act like it’s acceptable for their side to behave like gasp authoritarian dictators.
Yes, some people like to give undue credit but you’re just the other side of that coin shitting on any action that is taken.
Instead of engaging in the discussion you resort to snark, assumptions and insults. It’s clear you have nothing to contribute, engaging with you any further would be a waste of my time.
Have a day!
I've said that I will be happy to give Biden credit for actual accomplishments. This is not an accomplishment. It could be groundwork for one, or it could be making a show of looking into it and then not following through.
Democrats squandered what remaining benefit of the doubt they had years ago. Until it's an accomplishment, it's a bill of goods as far as I'm concerned.
It’s not, it’s what Biden can do. That’s why you still haven’t provided an example or an actual answer to the original question, what else is there for Biden to do?
So you don’t understand how the process works? That’s effectively what you’re saying.
Perhaps you should read up. This is a good explanation from when this was discussed during Obama’s presidency. Do you see anywhere that it says the president can unilaterally legalize or change the schedule of a drug?
There’s a system, it’s part of how that whole checks and balances thing works. Ignorance often leads to anger as you so aptly demonstrate. I honestly wonder if people who comment like you have are being intentional or are unwittingly part of the disinformation machine.
I don't expect him to do anything. He's a Democrat. I didn't say I expected him to do anything. Your question is based on incorrect assumptions.
Until this is an accomplishment, it's a bill of goods. It's another in an endless series of worthless promises that Democrats never intend for an instant to keep. It's a con.
No, my question was based on what the person I was responding to said before you jumped in with your inanity. Try to keep up.
Then don't expect me to answer on another's behalf. If you'll carefully read my comment, you'll notice that at no point did I say Biden was going to do anything nor that I expected him to.
Just pointed out that he said he'd look into it, and noted the centrist tendency to interpret stated intentions as accomplishments, regardless of how little is actually done.
Then don’t reply to someone who’s asking a question. Especially when you have nothing to actually contribute to the conversation.
There’s a saying about how it’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
You should have stayed silent because there is certainly no doubt about your foolishness now.
Don't aggressively ask questions of someone and expect no reply. If you want to interrogate me about another person's opinions, I'm within my rights to point out that you're being unreasonable.
Your attempts to gaslight me into accepting campaign bullshit as accomplished fact have failed.