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[-] Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 217 points 9 months ago

Reminder that this is made by Ben Zhao, the University of Chicago professor who stole open source code for his last data poisoning scheme.

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 64 points 9 months ago

Pardon my ignorance but how do you steal code if it's open source?

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 219 points 9 months ago

You don’t follow the license that it was distributed under.

Commonly, if you use open source code in your project and that code is under a license that requires your project to be open source if you do that, but then you keep yours closed source.

[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I still wouldn't call it stealing, but I guess "broke open source code licenses" doesn't have the same impact, but I'd prefer accuracy.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 89 points 9 months ago

It’s piracy, distributing copyrighted works against the terms of its license. I agree stealing is not really the right word.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

Nah piracy is with like boats.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 17 points 9 months ago
[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 11 points 9 months ago
[-] msage@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago

And eyepatches and scimitars

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Distributing it would be one thing, but profiting off it?

[-] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 22 points 9 months ago

I think it makes the most sense to think of it like stealing the way plagiarism is stealing.

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 12 points 9 months ago

I wouldn't call pirating stealing either so

[-] Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 9 months ago

He took GPLv3 code, which is a copyleft license that requires you share your source code and license your project under the same terms as the code you used. You also can't distribute your project as a binary-only or proprietary software. When pressed, they only released the code for their front end, remaining in violation of GPLv3.

[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 5 points 9 months ago

Probably the reason they're moving to a Web offering. They could just take down the binary files and be gpl compliant, this whole thing is so stupid

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

I think that's what AGPL tries to prevent

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago

Yes, but if the code they took is not AGPL then this loophole still applies

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Yes, I meant more that AGPL was created to plug this particular loophole. As in, if it was AGPL, they couldn't do this.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's true

Although I personally am not a fan of licences this strict, MIT+Apache2.0 seems good enough for me. Of course, that might change with time and precedents like this 😅

[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And as I said there, it is utterly hypocritical for him to sell snake oil to artists, allegedly to help them fight copyright violations, while committing actual copyright violations.

[-] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

That TOS would be sus under any other situation.

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